Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: On Super Normalized. Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Herman Petrick. Herman is an energy healer from New Zealand. And it was such an interesting talk that I'm afraid to say that we actually had some bad audio and unfortunately, I couldn't pull all of the problems out of it. But it does actually scrub up pretty good and sounds actually quite okay. But you will hear a bit of echo sometimes, and that wasn't coming out of my headphones. Who knows? Mercury retrograde. Thank you very much. Yeah, right. But because it was such a great conversation, I took it through some audio processing and cleaned it up as best I could. And I'm sure you'll enjoy. We talk about possession, energy healing, parasitic attack, and how those sort of things manifest in people's lives. And how Herman, as an energy healer, discovered his own ability to do the amazing, which is to actually kick these spirits out, kick these spirits off people and to help them heal and find a new path in life towards health and longevity, really, because, you know, these spirits aren't too nice. Anyway, you'll enjoy this show. Thank you.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Ed, are you still there?
[00:01:13] Speaker A: I am.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: Okay, there we go. We just disappeared from my screen for a second. How are you today?
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah, very good. Yeah. So I've just started recording, so I got that going. I'm just going to move the cameras around. So I'm looking at you.
Yes, that's better.
Now, does that look like I'm looking at you?
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks like you're looking at me.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Cool. Thank you.
How are you? Good to meet you.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: You too. So you're in Australia.
[00:01:42] Speaker A: In Australia, yes. And looking at all of your work, I would say you're an exorcist.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of that. That could be one way to define it for sure, because my work is about removing what I call energetic parasites.
You know, people have several names for them. You know, they this, that or the other, but to me, they're just parasitic energy that needs to be removed. So, yeah, I. There's a lot of negative connotations with, you know, being an exorcist or whatever, but that's definitely when I got started. I, I, I kind of researched a lot of the exorcism over the centuries and kind of how it worked and, you know, it really fascinated me. But the work I do is similar results but not the same.
Not the same technique, so to speak. So.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: Excellent. All right, well, look, I better welcome you into the show and we'll get going because we're going to start getting juicy straight away by the sound of it.
All right, so I'll pause, and we'll start.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: Welcome to Super Normalized Herman Petrick. Herman, you're an energy healer that works, by the sound of it, mostly remotely, but in doing so, you actually help people clear energies from their bodies, from their homes, from their lives.
That helps them to become more free and move.
I don't know, you would put it probably in the way of light more authentically and easily through the world without those hindrances. So welcome to the show. I'm interested in hearing all of this story.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
So, Herman, how did this all start for you?
I mean, there was that night in Wellington that first. Changed everything.
Can we go into that? And exactly what happened in that house, and how did that make you realize that you could do this work?
[00:03:43] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's really where it all started.
I never guessed I would be doing this type of work, but I was in. In Wellington at a friend's house, and she was having all kinds of problems in the house. And she really just described it all to me about these faces holding her down at night, having sleep paralysis, nightmares all the time. And she had lots of friends come over, family that didn't want to stay in her house because they felt stuff and, you know, stuff move around and touch them. It's just a really weird. You can say a haunted house.
And to the point where she had several priests come in from her church, and they said, there's just something in there they couldn't get rid of. And when I was there, she was telling me about it, and then just a light bulb went off in my head, like, oh, I can do this. And I didn't mention anything. And I just walked around the house and kind of not speaking out loud, but internally saying, I don't know who you are or what you are, but this is my space and you need to leave.
And that was essentially all I did. But it felt like. It felt like it really came from, you know, my heart or my gut, where a place of power with no fear. And. And I just left it alone. And then a couple weeks later, I just talking to her on the phone, and. And I asked, and she said, it's. It's interesting because ever since you left a couple weeks ago, there's not been one issue in the house. And then I was like, oh, so it. So it works. So then I started studying the different types of energies, and I read through some old text on exorcisms over the century, and I was already familiar with, like, the energies of the body and how they regulate our emotions and stuff. So things just kind of connected for me. And then I just had this sense of knowing that I can do this. And I was telling some friends, and, you know, they thought I was crazy. And, you know, I did some work for them and their daughter, and it changed, completely changed their life. And so then they told other people, and people started calling me because I helped their child with, like, nightmares. And then the.
All these parents started calling me, hey, I heard about, you can fix nightmares for children. And so then I started doing that, and I created a website, and then it just kind of blew up into what it is today. And that was. That was nearly 15 years ago. And so.
And a lot's changed because this word didn't come with an instruction manual. It was just kind of.
I didn't know what I didn't know, and I was just blindly going in.
But I always made sure I came from a place where there was no fear and I was coming from internal. It was kind of a place of power for me.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: Sounds like you had the command of truth.
Walking around that house that time, I was like, you don't need to be here. Off you go.
Yeah, yeah. You describe your upbringing in a Christian sort of household. How did that faith background shape your openness to what you now call inorganic energies? I mean, inorganic energies. Sounds like something from Carlos Castaneda.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And interesting you bring up Carlos Castaneda, because once I started doing this work, I had a longtime friend that I used to coach software with years ago, and he's in Scottsdale, Arizona, and I was telling him about my work, and he's like, you sound like the Carlos Castaneda books. And I'm like, who's that? And he's like, oh, Herman, you gotta read these books. And then I had a Canadian friend that I met in New Zealand, and he said the same thing. He's like, you sound like Carlos Castaneda. And I'm like, you're the second person. So I decided to read those, and they really resonated with me. They're really cool books. But back circle. Back to your question. The.
The Christian household, You know, my. My parents and my three sisters.
You know, I think that set a really good foundation for me of, like, supernatural, because we grew up in a church that.
Several churches, you know, that were very outspoken and outgoing, like singing and dancing and, you know, kind of like a Pentecostal type upbringing, if you know what that is. But kind of switched more to like a more non denominational. So I was around a lot of, you know, singing and dancing and people shaking and falling over type supernatural type stuff through the church. Not that that was the norm but we'd been. I've been to a few events where that was going on but.
And then I have a grandmother who had passed years back but she was kind of a self proclaimed exorcist herself and she, I remember stories as a kid she'd pointing people out they got demons in them and you know, or she was. People had her come to their home and do full on exorcisms. I always thought she was insane, but I wish I can talk to her now but. So, so the, the church, you know, had a good foundation, you know, for maybe the hierarchy of good and evil I guess.
But the work that I do really is, it's not, not religious. I always like to say energy really knows no religion now energy is frequency based and different religions have different frequencies so they attract different types of energies and so on and so forth. But, but my work is all, all done through the power of my intent and, and having that ability to connect to my own true self and then be able to connect to other people and set my intent to do my work is, you know, that's a, that's a gift. That's you know, something that, you know, a God given talent so to speak. So where that came from I don't know. But I feel like everything in my life is taking me to this point. So going through growing up in a Christian house almost probably very beneficial for me.
But, but the key to my work is is, is not having any fear and because these energetic parasites as I call them really feed on fear and anxieties, you know. And so, so if you're, if you have a lot of fear in your life, it's, you're going to be, you know, attacked for that fear because they're just feeding on that.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense.
I like the fact that you've bridged the worlds of Christianity and also what would you call it more like shamanic sort of sciences there and in doing so brought that together to get a greater understanding of the connection between the two.
That's fantastic. So what point did you decide this wasn't just a private experience but a gift you needed to offer publicly?
[00:10:40] Speaker B: It was when I started getting calls from parents and they started seeing the results.
So like my very first paying client was a family that had a five year old boy that was having extreme nightmares every single night. And to the point where he was very afraid to even walk down the hall by himself to go to the bathroom. And so he would be sleeping in his parents room. And the parents told me this started when he was two years old.
The story they told me was there was a neighbor across the street that had committed suicide. And the 2 year old said he saw something hanging from the tree on that day. And every sense had these nightmares and just, just all this fear. And so when they came to me, you know, I don't talk to the, the five year old, he's not going to have a clue what I'm doing. They just said, they said this is what's happening. And I said, okay, I'll do my work and then just give me your feedback over the week. And then as soon as I did the work, the very next morning they're like, what did you do? Because he slept through the night, no nightmares. And like it just got better and better and better.
And so it kind of, it really gave that boy his life back. And so to me it was like, it felt so good to be able to help someone that's just being tormented like this. And so I knew, I'm like, this is, I'm meant to be doing this, I need to be doing this. And so that really set the fire for me and the, the friends before that that told these people they had a daughter who was 24, but ever since she was 14, same thing, nightmares every night, sleeping three to five hours. And when I, I wanted to test it on her without her knowing, after two weeks they called me and said, it's, she's a different person. She's sleeping eight to ten hours a night. No more nightmares, no more sleepwalking. And it just, it just felt really good.
But that's just how I started with, you know, nightmares, because that's an easy target.
But a lot of people that are suffering from anxiety or hearing voices or lots of fear or depression, there's so many symptoms and people internalize things differently and they manifest themselves differently. So.
But it just, my work is turned into much bigger than just helping people with their sleep. And, and to me it's, it's, it's very simple. It's.
You have an energetic attachment that attached to you and it really manipulates your thoughts and it manipulates your emotions and it creates the fear and the anxiety through those thoughts and those emotions. And yes, and then it feeds on those fears and those anxieties. And so that being the case, if we could just remove those energetic parasites, then what Happens. And so yeah, but then when you remove those, it's like, you know, there's still some ongoing stuff from stuck traumas or old habits or thought programs, so you kind of have to go in and do other types of healing to just kind of flesh things out. And so. But yeah, it just, it just felt good and, and being able to help people around the world, it just, it's just an amazing thing. And especially I have a soft spot for, for little ones, you know, kids. And they're my easiest clients because there's, they don't have all the habits of, you know, a grown up. But most of my clients are, you know, adults and, and usually it's the, the, the mother or the wife that reaches out to me and I work on the, the whole immediate family.
So. But yeah, just, it just, it just feels, it doesn't feel like a job. It feels like more of a life purpose. And, and if you can go through life focusing on your life purpose, it just makes things that much better for you. So.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had some trouble a while back with some entities that were messing with me at nighttime and they would, making me have dreams are about my father dying. And they'd do it over and over and I'd wake up crying, going, what's going on here? This is weird.
And I looked into it even further. I went, wait a minute, wait a minute. This is just, it's happening in a pattern and it's happening every night.
So it's got to be not what it's showing me. It's gotta be something behind that. And I did some work with them and I caught them out and when they were in, just about to start doing the dream and said, wait a minute, this, you can't be doing this. And these two beings actually thought they were having food in a place that was somewhere else, but that food just happened to be my imagination.
Right.
And with a bit of talking to, I got them to go away and said, look, you can't do this. I need a good sleep.
And they left and they never came back, which was good.
Now how do you differentiate between psychological or medical problems and issues driven primarily by these attachments? Because I mean, you probably do get some people that actually do have organic issues, you know, in the mind rather than actual entities.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And, and that's a good question. And it's really hard to discern if someone has like a real mental illness from like a brain issue or, or is it something from an energetic standpoint. And, and my approach is always everything is energy. So any, anything wrong is an energetic issue. So my approach is it's always an energetic issue. Now, obviously, if it's not, and I work on their energy, it's not going to fix some of the mental illness that they may have.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: And, and part of the, part of the problem, one of the biggest issues I have working with people is the prescription drug intake. And so, so if I'm working with someone that has severe depression and they've been on an antidepressant for, you know, 10, 20 years, and it's just a constant, and, you know, they, they change meds or they up, you know, they up the dosage.
When I'm working with those type of people, it's hard to get the job done because I would clear away the, the energies. And then as they take the medications, they just pick up more and more. So, so how it works is when we're taking, when we're doing things, putting things in our body, ingesting things, whether it's drugs and alcohol or bad foods or whatever we're creating, we're dumbing down our energy. And prescription drugs, particularly, you know, heavy do doses of pain meds or anxiety or depression pills, those dumb our energy down. And when our energy is dumbed down, we're not producing enough energy to really protect ourself. And so when I'm working on someone that's taking pills a couple times a day, I'm clearing the energy, they're dumbing themselves down, and then they're just picking stuff up from their environment.
So the real key to my work is extracting these energies and then helping the person achieve, like, an inner balance so they have a better connection to their self. And when you have this inner balance, you've produced this energy around you, let's call it your aura. And that aura acts as an invisible bubble, like an invisible force field.
When that's at 100% these energies, it's hard for those parasites to get in and attach to your being.
But when you're doing things like drinking too much alcohol or taking prescription drugs, it dumbs down your energy. And so you're not producing that, that, that invisible force field or that bubble. And so you're just soaking up energies as, like a sponge as you're going around. And it just keeps reinventing itself, reinventing.
And it's hard for people to get off of those pills that they've been on for years. And I'm certainly not a medical doctor, and I, I can't give people advice to stop taking their meds, All I can do is recommend they talk to their doctor about how do I get off, how do I lower my dosage, wean myself off of this. But. And it took me a few years to figure this out, and I figured it out through connecting the dots. When I'd worked with the family, I would check them every day for the first few weeks, and I'd always see one person I have to clear over and over. And then I would have a conversation. I'm like, what's the deal with Sally? And they would be, is she on. She's on medications. And so then the light bulb went off, and I kept seeing that every time. Every time I work on a family, I can tell who's on prescription medicine, who's not, based off energetic attachments. It's like they're a magnet for them. And so.
But. So that makes it hard when someone feels like they have a mental illness, whether it's bipolar or depression, they're on these drugs for so long that it's really rewired things for them. So it's. It's a hard fix. It's not impossible, but it just takes commitment on their part and doing things, you know, mindfulness to help with that. But some of the other, you know, mental illnesses, you know, people just. They just have stuff wired differently in their brain, and it's not an energetic issue. Now, most people have an energetic issue, so the work I'm doing is helping them on some level, but it's not fixing what they wanted fixed because it's a neurological issue, if that makes sense.
But a lot of times, if we can get our. Ourselves back into balance, our physical bodies, our energetic bodies into balance, we have this amazing ability to heal ourself. But it's hard to do that when we have all these energetic blocks and things aren't flowing. And so part of my work is helping people get things flowing and so that their body can actually do its job and heal itself.
And so while it may not fix that specific mental illness, it'll fix other aspects of their life that generally will lead to, you know, better outcomes for them.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: So, yeah, now you've actually likened energy clearing to like clearing a computer cache or restarting a computer. How can you unpack that metaphor and explain what is being reset or cleared?
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah, so it's.
It's. It's. Again, everything I do is through my intention, and so I set my intent when I'm working with someone. But our. Our. Our soul or our energetic body, whatever you want to call it, is is like a super computer.
And you, you know, when your computer's running slower, even your smartphone, you know, you have too many apps running in the background and it's bogging down the memory. You have to hit the restart button. Or sometimes it's even worse because it's, it's viruses. So I liken that to your body in the way that we go through experiences in our life. And, and those experiences create old traumas, stuck trauma, so to speak, or even what I would call like a thought program.
And, and so just like a computer, if the computer does this, you know, the program will start to run this program, to run this program, and it's all connected. So something happens in your life. This thought program comes up and says, oh, and an example of that would be, say you're a. You're a kid and you don't want to eat all your food on your plate. And your mom says, you know, you need to eat everything on your plate because there's kids starving in Africa.
And so then every time you sit down as an adult, whether you want to eat all your food or not, it's in your. The thought. You sit down to eat. Your thought program goes, you need to eat all your food. Well, is it healthy to eat all your food if you don't, if you're not hungry? And so that, to me, that's a thought program. And that's one of the things, like in the cache of your computer or a cookie in your computer that's running that says, oh, you got this and this. And so, so I go through and try to remove as much of those thought programs as possible. And the other big thing is your connections. Like, when you interact with someone, like you and I are interacting, we gain what's called a cord connection. It's an energetic connection, and it's very light.
A lot of people feel it differently because some people are more sensitive than others. But think about, as you go through life, you're connecting with thousands of people, whether it's phone calls or interactions in person and those, those little connections, it's like, it's. Sometimes it's drawing down on your energy, so it's weakening you over and over and over. So it's like, okay, let's cut those connections. Another good way to think about it and the computer analogy is when you have all these connections, it's like your WI fi at home. When there's so many people on the WI Fi, it bogs the WI fi down. Well, you have so many connections with everyone around you from Your interactions throughout the days or the weeks that it's, it's bogging you down. So how do we get the speed of our WI fi up? We need to go from dial up Internet connection to broadband or you know, a fiber connection. And the best way to do that is cutting those connections, removing those, emptying the cache and freeing up the memory, so to speak. So that's, that's really essentially how it works. But I do all the work on that through my intent.
And so then I gain feedback from the people that I work with over the first few weeks and then I typically have a follow up conversation with them after the fact and answer the questions because they have a lot of questions on what was done, but mainly giving them advice on how to change the direction. Because if you take your computer in because it has all these bugs and viruses and then they hand it back, if you go to the same websites and run the same programs, you're going to get the same bugs and viruses. So it's about, okay, I've been being guided by these energetic parasites through manipulation of my thoughts and my emotions.
Now that I'm not being manipulated, I'm reset.
Where do I want to go? What, what's in store for me? And that's a hard question for people, but when we're just so used to all of those programs in the background, habits, you know, running life through just, you know, kind of just going with the flow and not really being purposeful on what we're here to do. And so that's really how I like to try to educate people on, okay, let's take time for ourselves and connect and then you'll start to have a better sense of who you are and what you should be doing and where you should be going. And then paying attention to your thoughts and your emotions and really questioning those.
Because by questioning all your thoughts and your emotions, you're separating yourself from them. You are not your thoughts and your emotions, let's be clear about that.
And so by separating yourself from them, you can have a better.
Oh yeah, I like this. That's a good thought. That's a good emotion. Oh no, that doesn't serve me. So separating yourself from them is a big deal because then you're not being guided by them, you're being guided from your, your true self. So, so clear it all out, reset the computer, give that instruction and then they're off to the races. And of course life happens and you know, things happen around us. You just, sometimes you can't control the energy that's flowing around. Or if you work in a toxic environment, say, like a. Like a hospital, you know, or the police department. I mean, there's so many places of work that there's so much craziness around you that it's hard to keep yourself free from these parasites.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's important to actually better pull back to that again, to that unattached observer so you can see the truth of what's actually happening for you and around you.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good way to look at it, you know, Unattached observer. What's happening here?
[00:26:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I. I experienced myself a period of possession one time when I got attacked by a shaman, put two entities on me, and I didn't believe. Like, I. I didn't think possession was a real thing until it really happened. And to be honest, it scared the hell out of me because I was thinking, what the hell is these two other beings that are actually out to really harm me, and they're inside me, and I don't know what to do. And thankfully, I did actually some other help from other beings that helped me to pull back to that observer spot, Got to watch it and then be able to cut off the paths that they were putting in front of me to say, go down here, go down here. You know, and it took a little bit, but, yeah, three months of that and it was gone. And, yeah, I'm very happy for it because, you know, I did learn a lot from it as well.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And a lot of people that come to me have had experiences, and that's why they come to me sometimes. I'm like a last resort. And so some people think that everything's healthy with them when it's not. It's like it slowly manifests itself, and they don't quite understand how it all works. But I'm glad you're able to, you know, free yourself from that, you know, with help around you. But it happens more often than you think. I mean, I deal with some pretty heavy stuff. I work with people that are being attacked through black magic. So someone pays other people to do things to them energetically, and you think, oh, those aren't real. Curses, hexes, spells, whatever. That's not really. But it affects people more than you realize and causes all sorts of problems.
One of the toughest things for me to work with is people that are struggling with, like, telepathy. So, you know, when people can communicate and. And they can't shut it off, and so they're being, like, hammered constantly, you know, and. And My work is more about extracting, in, reconnecting and, and, and that's more of a. Just a connection. It's just a constant connection. So it's, it's harder to just block that connection. And so we just don't know what people are going through. Sometimes it's other people connecting in at random times, doing things, getting in and out. And sometimes it's a, it's an energetic parasite causing this problem sometimes.
[00:28:30] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: Direct. Like your shaman person sent you a couple things. It's like. And those things just wreak havoc on people. And then. Yeah, and then they go to the, in the west, go to the doctor and they get a tablet and they take the tablet and it masks what, who they are and they're walking around at a shell of a person and then it just bigger and bigger. And that's kind of what we're dealing with in our world is people are walking around disconnected in this world of chaos, you know, and it's, it feels like it's all by design.
So.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: Well, I was literally guided to a book in a bookshop and walked around the shop and the helpful spirit that was with me said this one and I pulled it off the shelf. And it was the Stormy Search for the Self by Stanislav Grof and Christina Grof. And it explained how to actually keep that observer and step back and keep the, the overwhelm at bay, really, and to be able to extract yourself from that. It really helped a lot. And I would encourage anyone that's interested in knowing more about that to read that book for sure.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: Yeah. It's good to have helpers that can point you in the right direction for things that's. Yeah, yeah.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: So can you walk us step through by step through a typical remote energy clearing and what information you collect, how you prepare and what do you do during the work and what will the client usually experience afterwards?
[00:30:03] Speaker B: Yeah, so the work for me comes with great ease and that's how I know it's like a, it's like a life purpose thing because it just, it's just so, so easy for me now Case. Every case is different and every once in a while I have a real nasty one where I'm being attacked myself. But so I don't need a lot of information at all. And this really surprises a lot of people. So someone will come to me and, you know, usually it's the mother of a family and say, oh, you know, I need an energy clearing for my family and my house.
What information do you need? And the only thing I need is the first names of the family members they want, she wants to include. And I don't really need that because everything, we're all connected. And so my gift is being able to connect with someone's energy and use my intention to clear out what they need and the family around them. But I keep a spreadsheet, so I like to have the names and I can kind of have little codes that I code things because there's some specific things that I look at if people have that I, I make a notation of because it's a little more important to me.
So I don't need a lot of information.
Then I, once I get the information, I never schedule it with the, the family or the person, the individual. I don't, they don't participate at all. And the reason for that is I found, if I was to say, okay, we're going to do it on this day and this time, keep in mind these energetic parasites are so connected with your thoughts and your emotions, they're just going to leave when it's scheduled. That's right, you come right back. And so it's like, why, why even tell them when I'm going to do it? And so I typically say I'll do The work within 24 hours is usually what I say. And then I'm living in New Zealand at the moment. And so my time zones, my, most of my business comes out of the US And I go back and forth between the US and New Zealand. But so like you being in Australia, it's easy to work on people in the States while they're sleeping because the time zones are, you know, they're behind us, but it's like later in the day. So I work, mostly work on people while they're sleeping and they wake up to an email that I, that I send them in the email just. So what I do is I just go into my, my, my own. I, I connect to my true self. I focus my attention on the people on my spreadsheet that I have and I just essentially do a command for each of them. And then as after I do the command for them in their space, I, I focus my attention on them again and whatever needs to be done. From a healing standpoint, there's about a dozen different things that I do.
Not everyone needs everything, but there's about a dozen different things I do. And there's a few indicators that I keep track of. Like if, if someone does have like a curse or a hex, I make a notation of that. If someone has soul Fragmentation or soul loss. I make a note of that because I do a process called soul retrieval to bring back those missing, you know, parts and pieces, so to speak.
And then I also look for what I call dark portals. That's usually on their property, you know, in their home or an object in their home. And in some cases it's actually there's portals within people's energetic field, which is, it's really rare, but it does happen. So I check for that.
And those are kind of a few of the things that I make sure if they're there, I make a notation because then it kind of heightens my senses a little. I pay a little bit more attention to what's happening in that person that has those problems.
But it's really straightforward, it's very quick.
I do the work and then the expectation of the people is just a better sense of harmony in their lives because they're not running into all of this chaos. It's just like calming the storm within them internally. And the main feedback I get is, wow, I feel so much lighter. But keep in mind, it's. If someone comes to me with a specific issue, like I'm having insomnia, the feedback needs to be, I'm sleeping better. And sometimes it's instant, sometimes it takes about a week. It just, it varies. But I offer, when I work with people, I give a 90 day window. So, you know, you pay for my service, I cover you for 90 days. Days. And so I do the work. The heavy lifting's done up front. And then as you gave me your feedback, and let's say I work on you and you feel amazing after the first week, but then two and a half months later you feel something's off, you had a bad dream, you just reach out to me and say, hey, can you check me again? And then I do the work again for the person, because these things are tricky. And then once you do the initial work, when I don't schedule it, I then check in on each person individually for the first week or two randomly at random times to make sure they're not picking something up. Because then if I can see a pattern, I'm like, okay, there's something in your environment that you keep picking up. So we have to kind of find out what the problem is. And this lady in Boston, and she's a empath, so she's very sensitive and, and I worked with her for, for, you know, a few weeks or a few months. And then she got on. I have a membership program where you can reach out to me anytime. And then all of a sudden, she was messaging me every single day. And I'm like, I had to have a call with her. I'm like, why am I doing this every day? And she wasn't. She needed it every day. And I'm like, we have to fix something in your environment.
And she had just been promoted to, like, a investigator of violent crimes in the Boston Police Department. And she's an empath. And so she's working around all of this crazy, nasty, evil energy, and it was attaching to her every single day, and it was making her physically ill.
And we finally figured it out and got some protection around her, and now she's functioning just perfect. But I told her she needed a new job, and she's like, no, this is. I'm meant to be helping these people, Herman. I can't leave this job.
But we've worked. Worked our way around it. So sometimes it's just a matter of seeing what's happening in the environment and making sure we're making some changes within ourselves to protect ourselves from what's happening in our environment. Because most of it, this environmental stuff,
[00:36:17] Speaker A: after a clearing, you talk about also restoring flow. What does that look like? And how's that different from the removal of the inorganic energies?
[00:36:26] Speaker B: Yeah, so flow is more of a. Now, the energetic. The.
The energetic parasites can block some of the flow, But a lot of times, what's blocking the flow is our own holding onto things like holding on to some emotions or holding on to some thoughts. And. And so think about your energy is just. Energy is just in a constant flow, and if you block it, it causes. It causes problems. And an easy analogy. I like analogies. An easy analogy is a river flowing down a mountainside. It's when it's flowing, the foliage around it, the grass, it's all green. The water's crystal clear. But when you take a log and you block that flow, then.
Then the water becomes a little murky and has parasites, and the foliage around it starts to turn brown and nasty. It's not naturally filtering the water as it's flowing through the earth, and so it's stagnant. And that stagnant water becomes nasty and causes disease around the plant life around it because it's just stagnant water. Same thing with our energy flow. We remove the log, the water starts to flow, and the body starts to heal itself. The foliage starts to heal itself as the water's filtering through the. Through the earth. So think of your energy flowing through your body as filtering your body. And when you have blockages, the filtering is not happening. And when you're not having filters, then you start having disease happening around you. And it could be minor stuff. It could be, you know, people suffering from, like, little dull headaches or migraines. A lot of times that's an energetic issue because things aren't flowing.
Some of the migraines are. You know, people have been injured in accidents and stuff. But I have a lot of clients I work with that have always been prone to migraines. And anytime they start to feel a migraine coming on, because they typically can feel it coming on, I get a text or an email.
Herman, I feel a migraine. Can you fix it? And then I'll do my thing for them, and then they don't pick up their migraine, or someone will call me and say, herman, I'm getting this bad headache. And then.
And because what I'm doing is I'm removing any parasites, and then I'm removing any energetic blocks. And it's just letting the flow go.
So.
So when you have the flow of your energy flowing, your body just starts to respond to things a little bit better. It's. It's just like your body's constantly changing, and when you try to stop the flow, it becomes stagnant. And when we're stagnant, we're not, you know, it starts to decay. And, you know, so that's the key is keep things flowing.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: Do you see any common symptoms people report before they connect with you? And which symptoms tend to respond fastest
[00:39:11] Speaker B: to clearing people with nightmares?
That's easy. That's like. It's because it's. You either know you have one or you don't. Some people don't realize they do, but most people realize they do when they're really bad. So nightmares, it's easy because it's tangible.
A lot of people just feel like nothing is working right in their life. Nothing goes right, and it's very vague.
And so that's a little harder to judge. Did it work because you don't have a nightmare that stopped? It's like. And all of a sudden, it's not a magic pill, and everything in your life is going to be perfect. It just simply doesn't work that way. But.
But yeah. The biggest thing is people that are suffering from a lot of anxiety and depression and nightmares. Those are the three big ones, and those are the three easy ones to.
To. To. To. To get the results, because you're either gonna feel the difference or you're not. And people that don't have those specific things. Typically, they're the ones that say, oh, I feel a lot lighter. Or things just, you know, in their household, they can. They feel better. Like, you know, you can walk into a room that feels heavy, you know, and if that's the case, after I do my work, you walk into that room, it doesn't feel heavy. Things are a little easier on you. So.
But yeah, so if there's a specific issue, it's, It's. It's very easy to tell how effective my work was because you can see the difference. Typically within a couple days, if not instantly, when it's more vague, things just feel off.
People do tend to feel better, but it's usually after a few weeks. And then sometimes it's like I've had people that say, you know, herman, I feel better, but I just. I don't know if it really worked, you know, and then six months later, they'll call me and say, hey, I just. I just ran into some old family. And they say, I'm so different, you know, so sometimes other people can see the difference in them because they're just so close. You know, they can't see the forest through the trees sort of thing. So, yeah, yeah.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: Sometimes it's hard. It takes a bit to observe yourself as other people observe you.
You've worked across the world with people in different cultures, ages and life stages. Did you see any patterns or any differences between them, or is it something that seems common across the world?
[00:41:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's. I'm. I'm writing a book now.
Hopefully by the end of the year, I'll have it done. And I'm going to talk about that a little bit in there because it. To me, it was fascinating because, like, working in the west, you know, very Christian world, you know, I. I'm doing work in the Middle east, very Muslim world, and then, you know, doing some stuff in, like, Hong Kong, Singapore, and.
And you would think things feel a little different because the different religions talked about, you know, the demonic energy and the Christians and the gin with the Muslims, and.
And it feels all the same to me. I think everything's. I think it's the same stuff. We just label it all differently.
And of course, there's. Of course there's different levels of it. Like. Like the. Some are worse than others, some are more powerful or less powerful. I mean, there's. There's always a difference, but they feel the same and they respond the same.
Yeah. So to me, and. And I'm talking about that.
I'm writing about that now, but I'll. I'll explain something very.
This might be a little controversial for. For some people, but like the.
The Christian.
The religion, like I said, I started out kind of Pentecostal and Pentecostal. If you don't know about that religion, it's. It's. It's early Christianity. Well, in the 70s and 80s, it was really big, I'm guessing. But they speak in tongues. So what they do is you go to church, and then the beginning of the church, you have a worship service where you're, you know, they have a band and they're rocking out and people are raising their hands and they're inviting the Holy Spirit into them so that they could be healed for whatever reason. So everyone's dancing and they. It's a routine. It's like a ritual of specific songs and dance and inviting the Holy Spirit in. And then the Holy Spirit comes in and the person might start speaking in a weird language that no one knows, or they might start shaking and fall over.
And then someone tries to discern what they said.
You know, the other person said, oh, they said this. And whatever. Who knows what they're saying? It sounds like whatever language. I don't think the language is anything that's really documented.
So that's. That's how the Pentecostals are operate. Well, then you have the.
I used to call it like Voltan, I think, or the voodoo people. You know, people that do voodoo. And so what they do is they. They go out into nature, typically not in like a house of worship. And they do chanting and songs and beating, and they invite us very specific spirit into their body so that they can be healed. And so same sort of thing. They start out, it's a large group of people.
They do the song and dance, the. The ritual, and then they call in this energy to come into their body and heal them. And they vibrate and they say things and then it passes on.
Voodoo is like, very, very taboo in the Christian world. It's like the devil work, you know, and vice versa. And so I look at that and I go, well, the Holy Spirit is supposed to be this really good energy, and this voodoo thing is supposed to be this really bad energy. But they're getting to it the same way and they're asking it to do the same things like healing the body, the same type of energy.
And, you know, being from a Christian background, that might offend people. But to me, working, you know, staying out of the religious side of it and looking at it going, it's energy is energy, right?
Maybe it's a different frequency of this type of energy, I don't know. But to me it looks very, very similar.
And then when I'm working on people that are, say, Muslim and Abu Dhabi or wherever they may be, when I'm clearing the energy, it feels the same to me. It's just, I'm just removing these. And that's why I call them parasites. I don't want to give them their names because to me they're just, they're simply just parasites. But what I can say is when I'm working on someone, it's usually straightforward, but every once in a while I. It's a really powerful energy that I'm working against and I get a very sharp pain in like the lobe of my, my left forehead. That's when I'm being attacked, when I'm extracting these parasites. And it's one that's a really nasty one. And that happens not very often, maybe once every six months.
So it's not very often. But there's different levels of the energy or different intensities of the energy.
And. And I'll leave with one more thing on this, this comment we're talking about is think of the. Everything is, is the same. There's like, you know, there's like the temperature, hot and cold. It's. It's all the same. It's just, there's a degree of difference. And so if everything's the same, there's just a different degree of something. And so what is good and what is evil? You know, good to me might be this and evil to you might be that. But is it somewhere in the middle and into what degree is. Is it, is it really bad? Evil? Is it really good? Evil? Is it really good? Good? And so, so if you think of things with polarity, you know, then things are pretty much the same. The energy is the same, in my opinion.
I'm not saying I'm the expert on the whole thing, but I've worked with a lot of energy and I'm fortunate because my marketplace is, you know, the US is the biggest, you know, followed probably the UK was a close second, but the UK has dropped off for some marketing problems in the uk. But then, you know, I have like Hong Kong, Singapore in a few of the Middle Eastern countries and Australia is in there too. But in New Zealand is a very small market for me.
But the energies, no matter where I am, feel the same when I'm extracting. Unless it's like a Heavier one that attacks me when I'm trying to remove it.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: When you've completed a clearing, are there any follow up practices that you recommend to your clients?
[00:47:35] Speaker B: Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
It's the, the biggest thing is, is really taking time for ourselves. So we spend so much time doing our life and helping everyone around us. We forget to do things for ourselves. And so I like to tell people to just find something they like 10, 20 minutes a day. And it could be, I like to sit in silence for 10, 20 minutes and just breathe, focus on my breath. There's a, a, there's a breath work where you breathe in for five and a half seconds and you breathe out for five and a half seconds. To me that helps me really connect and, and by focusing on the breath I'm getting out of my head so I'm not chasing the thoughts that keep popping up.
So doing something like that I think is a good practice or you know, if someone's really into their religion, doing prayer or something or even going for a walk and so focused on the walk or the muscle group they're working out or just trying to quiet the mind is really the biggest thing. And doing things that you love because too many times we're, we're too busy helping everyone around us. We forget to take care of our ourself. And, and, and really when we, when we take time for ourselves, we can connect better to who we are. And so, so to me it's, that's it. Let's just find something.
You know, if you can, you know, meditate or pray for 10, 20 minutes a day, twice a day is even better. Especially if you people struggling with sleep. We, we get programmed all day. You know, we're listening to the music, we're watching TV programs and the worst thing to do is watch the news and then go to bed. You know, you're. So if you can do something, you know, cut things off the last half hour, hour before bed and do something, read or, or breathe, do some breath work or do something that you enjoy, you're kind of disconnecting from all of that crazy programming that's happening to us that's all around us, that's constant.
It's that simple type stuff.
[00:49:36] Speaker A: Yeah. That reset.
[00:49:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: What protective or preparatory practices do you use before and after doing heavy clearings for others?
[00:49:50] Speaker B: It's a daily thing for me is the practice of connecting and making sure that I'm staying connected to my heart. Self is what I like to call it.
And when I'm in that space I pay attention to my body. My body has telltale signs if something's happening around me because I'm doing this work. And a lot of times I can become a target myself because of just these, the energies all around us. And so, like, if I walk into a.
A building that has a lot of crazy, nasty energy, my left ear starts ringing off the hook and that's telling me, alert, there's something around here. And then I just clear the space, which takes me a few seconds, and then the ringing stops. And so things like that, or like I said that, that sharp pain here, that gives me a indicator and then I clear myself and it, it goes away almost instantly. I mean, there was one time where it took a.
Took a good 10 minutes to get rid of the, the pain. I mean, it was a really bad one. And then I had a sore neck for like months and I had to go to the chiropractor and acupuncture and I.
It was a problem. But that. That's happened one time, so. So just making sure that I'm always coming from my heart. If I'm doing this work through my ego, through my mind, it's not gonna. I'm gonna be a problem because I'll be attacked on a regular basis. So it's just coming.
Coming from a place of love when I do my work. And in that sense of knowing that this is, this is going to be done, that's my intent, is to, to do this. So, yeah, so not a lot of prep work for me, just, just my daily life.
[00:51:38] Speaker A: Are there any people that come to you that you decide, well, this person isn't suitable for this sort of work, or do we treat everyone?
[00:51:47] Speaker B: I pretty much treat everyone. There's been.
There's been maybe two people that I ended up not working with because it just.
It was more like.
Almost like they didn't want the help from a, from a. On a soul level.
And because you don't really know what people's journeys are. And one of the biggest questions I get asked is when I'm working on people that don't know I'm working on them, they're like, how can you work on someone without them, without their knowledge? Don't you have to get permission? And, and typically before I do my work, when I connect with them, there's indicators if I shouldn't be working on them. And, and that's only happened twice in like 15 years. So. So pretty much everyone that reaches out to me, I end up working on.
And I would say my 6 success rate is in the high 90s. You know, there's some, like we talked about earlier, sometimes there's some mental illnesses that aren energetic issues or there's some physical issues and, and sometimes people want like a magic pill, just fix it and then everything will be perfect in my life. And it's, it's really not like that. It's more about just helping people connect so that they can do what they need to do, what's right for them and you know, change their behaviors or be guided through life not by their, the parasites that are manipulating the thoughts and the emotions. And so, so yeah, there's that there.
[00:53:12] Speaker A: Any common misconceptions that clients may have before clearing that you want to clear up?
[00:53:19] Speaker B: No, not for clients because they, they, they've reached. I don't solicit their work. They've come to me. I do have people that will, you know, think that I'm doing, you know, the devil's work, so to speak, or religious fanaticism type people that think I should be doing this work, you know, through an organization, a church or whatever.
But no, most of the people I work with, they're, they're, they, they want my help and they're either referred or they've been guided to my website and things resonate with them.
So, so no, I don't really have too many, too many misconceptions with people when they come to me.
[00:54:06] Speaker A: What do you want viewers and listeners to take away from your life work?
[00:54:12] Speaker B: That energy is everywhere and it's all around us. We're an energetic being and being that energetic being, it's easy for us to be manipulated when we're in our ego self. And so, and we've been taught our whole life to, you know, we're an individual, you know, we have to think as an individual and we need to use our, our head. We need to use our head and, and people forget about, you know, their real heart space. And so to me it's really, if you can try to come from a place of love, the world will be a much better place. And it's hard to come from a place of love when we're always thinking of ourselves as an individual with an ego. And that's where the manipulation really happens. These, because the thoughts and the emotions get manipulated and, and honestly most people are guided by their thoughts and by their emotions. And so really just knowing that, you know, everything is energy and it can, your energy can be thrown off by something very small and it can take you in a direction and it might Be hard to come back from that direction. So pay attention to your thoughts and emotions and just know that they're not always your own.
That's probably the biggest thing.
[00:55:28] Speaker A: If you could say one thing to a skeptical theology professor or medical clinician listening right now, what would you say?
[00:55:39] Speaker B: That's a good question.
Especially the medical side is the harder one because they're smarter than everyone else.
[00:55:49] Speaker A: Smarter.
[00:55:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
And they're most medical professionals. They spend a lot of time studying in, in school, learning from textbooks and, and it's, it's a memorization memory, this and that and that, and there's a lot of history in it, and it does a lot of good. But, but to me, it's just, there's more to it than just the, the physiological side of it. There's the energetic side and doesn't always look for the.
They don't look at anything from an energetic standpoint. They just discard it whatsoever. And so to me, that's the biggest thing is if we can look at things that are happening to us from a energetic standpoint to figure out, instead of looking, okay, this is your symptom. Let's, let's fix that symptom. It's like, okay, what, what created that symptom?
And in most cases, it's something that's happened, a trauma that's happened in someone's life that triggered something and then it, and then it changes directions. And so the medical people, and don't get me wrong, I have several doctors and nurses that are clients of mine that are regular clients because they understand the energetic side, but from, as a whole, people in that industry, it's all about what PhD do you have or what education do you have on this?
And the education system, like I said, it's all about repetitiveness and memorization and, and when you're doing, you know, spiritual work, it's not about memorization.
[00:57:23] Speaker A: It's.
[00:57:23] Speaker B: It's, you know, it's, it's more about connection and being able to be in. Because if you can really connect to your heart, your heart knows all of this stuff. It's, it's pretty unreal how much your heart can, can, can realize if you're really connected to it. But a lot of people are so disconnected that they can't, you know, discern what's, what's going on. So, so yeah, the medical profession, you know, it's very much needed, but it's, they're hard nut to crack. They would, they would think that I'm, you know, a charlatan or or whatever. But it's, to me, it's, it's about the results. Okay, if you have, and, and when you start small, like a baby having nightmares, what doctor is going to fix that nightmare? What are they going to do to fix the nightmare when it can be done in a five second process and the nightmares are gone and we just discard that as, oh, you got placebo effect going on. Well, how is it placebo when the child doesn't know? I'm working on them, you know, and so, so it's the, to me, it's the track record of the people I've worked with. And, and I don't try to convince people to work with me. They either want to work with me or they don't. And I don't want to try to sell someone something that, to just to sell them something because they either want it or they don't. And if the time's right for them, they'll come to me. But yeah, the medical profession, I don't talk to medical people that much because it's not worth my time because they're worth talking on two different wavelengths. The frequencies are so different from me and a medical doctor. I have a sister who's an anesthesiologist and we have some really good conversations because she's my sister and she's my baby sister, so I'm kind of the boss of her. So I get to tell her how it really is.
But she's interesting. She has these drugs that she doesn't like to give when she's doing the anesthetics that create very, very bad nightmares. And I'm like, how can a drug create nightmares? And she's like, that's just.
[00:59:26] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:59:28] Speaker B: And it's like the side effects of a lot of drugs are, especially the antidepressants are suicidal thoughts.
What's that coming from? From a pill you're getting suicidal thoughts? What is that doing? And so we have these conversations a lot, but she's, I'm her brother and she, she knows I'm coming from my heart. And so we have some really good conversations. And she, the first few years it was hard for her, but it's been so long and we've had so many conversations. She gets it and she's actually sent people my direction. She has a colleague that I work with regularly. So I'm kind of slowly getting more mainstream, I guess.
[01:00:10] Speaker A: If you could speak to people who are suffering right now and unsure whether to reach out, what would you say to them in a single clear message,
[01:00:20] Speaker B: don't hesitate to reach out.
If you feel like you're struggling with something, go to my website, shoot me an email. I'm happy to have a conversation with you, like a free 15 minute consultation. And it's not a sales pitch. It's a. This is what I suggest for you specifically, and this is what you can expect.
That would be. That would be just a. Connect with me through my website, hermanpietrick.com. there's a contact page.
Just. Yeah, just reach out and I would be happy to have a conversation.
All right.
[01:00:54] Speaker A: Well, thank you, Herman, for sharing your understanding of the world of energy, the spirit world, and how removing those attachments and attacks can actually assist people in having a better flow in life.
[01:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And thank you for having me on your show. I've really enjoyed it and you had some great questions, so thank you.
[01:01:14] Speaker A: I enjoyed this talk with Herman, even though the sound went a bit wacky. And thanks for bearing with me and coming all the way through to the end. If you've enjoyed today's show, remember to like and subscribe. And subscribe. Please give me a comment, tell me what you think about Herman's work and how that all works. I'm very interested to know. I'm always interested to know what happens with parasitic attack and spirit and entity attachments. I mean, seriously, they. They do attach and they do actually cause a lot of issues with people. So please reach out, write a comment down below. That'd be very appreciated. Until next episode. We'll see you then.