Michael Monk Transformed Spiritual Awakening Into Healing Mastery

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Today on Supernormalized, I sit down with Michael Monk. He's a healer, teacher of spirituality metaphysics, and an energy mastery person being. I don't know what to say now because I've just interviewed him and it was mind blowing. He experienced direct communication from God in 1999. That changed everything. Michael went on to create the Avatar Energy Mastery Institute, train thousands in abilities such as clairvoyance and telekinesis, and then face a major personal crisis in 20 that then saw him turn around and return to his teachings centering on the Tree of Life and devotion to the Holy Spirit. Tune in to hear how his story unfolded and what practical steps you can take in your own life. Pay attention to the sections on daily practices and energy perception and share your thoughts after the episode and check out Michael's current offerings through the links in the show notes below. Welcome to Super Normalized Michael Monk. I'm very interested to hear your story, Michael. It's quite a huge one in that you've been touched by spirit and in doing so, you help others now to connect with their spirit and all of their abilities and ground themselves in a greater reality. Welcome to the show. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Yes, thank you, cj. Blessed and honored to be here. [00:01:23] Speaker A: Oh, I'm blessed and honored to talk to you. I can tell you that I'm very interested in your story because I actually watched some of your videos and, you know, your bio doesn't really cover all of it, so I'm like, well, this is. There's so much more information here in your videos too. Yeah. So I need to understand your background a little bit there because, you know, you did have quite a big grounding in faith in the first place. And then that morphed after you had a huge experience after watching a movie. Were you doing like mega, like meditation practices or anything like that at the time? Give us some background to you. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Yep, sure. So, yeah, I'll tell that. Full, full experience. So I was raised religious, Mormon faith, branch of Christianity. And I was the black sheep first to leave hypocrisy. Too much of it. So I, I was an entrepreneur at the time. I owned a business, a merchant services business. And, and I was bent on, on being rich and sailing the world. That was my dream. And I'm just watching a comedy movie, mindlessly enjoying myself and laughing, when all of a sudden, powerful presence comes in through the crown. Didn't know what one was. So just in my head and then it sits in my third eye. Didn't know what one was. And it booms like I can hear the voice on my eardrums and sense it telepathically in my brain. So it was both audible and telepathic. It wasn't a still, silent voice. It was like power. And it said, stand up. Stop laughing. Stand up. Turn the TV off. So I did, and curious who or what was talking to me, my grandpa had recently died. I asked it, grandfather, is that you? The voice boomed, yes. And I got a rush of a feeling that I've come to call the Holy Spirit. Electricity from head to toe, hair standing on the end, chills up the spine. Champagne bubbles of bliss through the body. And then there was like a feeling like you're missing something, there's more. So I asked if it was my cousin, cousin Jason, who had recently died. Same voice, boom. Yes. And I get the electricity. Hair standing on the end, champagne bubbles of bliss. And so I'm like, okay, I'm confused. You're my grandfather and you're my cousin. And then my outer vision was replaced with my inner vision. These days I would call that a full third eye awakening. But what I saw was mass host of humanoid light beings. I don't know, thousands, millions, billions beyond the mind's ability to count. They were all connected by silvery little threads and they were all speaking to me as one unified voice. And that's when my heart, my inner being recognized what I was talking to. Not so much a who, but more like a what. And so I acknowledged it as God. And it was very happy and said, you finally met me. I give you a space and time to communicate the nature of the questions. I don't even remember. They were all entry level stuff, just questions about the Bible. I had nothing to go on, but I could tell that it was leading me towards a greater truth that I wasn't ready for yet. [00:04:32] Speaker A: That's huge. What was the movie you were watching at the time? And people are going to be curious. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. [00:04:43] Speaker A: That's wild. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:45] Speaker A: I've said that to you a few times. It's never done that to me. So. Yeah, I think you must have been severely primed at the time and ready for that to actually happen. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:54] Speaker A: I did ask you, were you doing any practices at all? I mean. [00:04:57] Speaker B: No. What were you doing? Didn't even know what meditation was. Wow. Yeah. [00:05:04] Speaker A: I mean, you've got the right name, Monk. I mean. [00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Yeah. There's something like you're born for it somehow. [00:05:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. Looking back, with the hindsight of 20 20, I think God chose me because of My ability to communicate in very simple, plain English, how anybody can access or open this, because having. Having the wake you up can be very psychologically disturbing. It's much easier to be woken up by a human with meditation practice and counsel and guiding. It was difficult for me, and I've got a lot of fortitude. [00:05:40] Speaker A: How long did it take for it to settle for you before you could start to communicate that information clearly and simply? [00:05:51] Speaker B: It wasn't until. Well, the moment that I could was the moment that I released. The Avatar energy mastery institute. So 1999, 2011. 12 years. [00:06:02] Speaker A: 12 years, yeah. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:06:03] Speaker A: So during that time you were in direct communication and finding your way? [00:06:08] Speaker B: Well, the voice has only spoke to me three times in. In my life, but the Holy Spirit has always been there with a. A yes and no relationship or another way of seeing. It is for correct thought, warning for incorrect thought. So if it was yes or a reward for correct thought, I would get the Holy Spirit bliss electricity feeling. If the answer was no or a warning for incorrect thought, I would get a slight fight flight feeling in my belly, like a slight adrenal surge. And so that that relationship is. Is what God used to hone me to. To bring me to this. The voice of God is. It's only happened three times. [00:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But it's been subtly talking to you otherwise. [00:06:55] Speaker B: Yes, yes, with a more gentle energy. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah, look, I can understand that. I've had those sort of touches with spirit, and I've only had that voice come to me one time and it was very commanding and turned me back onto the right path. But since then, I've actually had, you know, the small whispering contact. And at times I've chose to ignore that at my own peril and have learned by getting burned. So, you know, it's important that, you know, the. Our personal intuition should tune into that sort of connection and know the right from the wrong and let that guide us. Because, you know, this. This is a journey and we've chosen this journey. So if we follow the story that our life is to become faithfully, it comes a lot easier. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah, sure does. Yeah. Yeah, a lot easier. I haven't always followed it. I did a period of sort of rebel and I guess you could say. And I learned the very hard way that yes, we are all one with God. And yes, you can experience the self as God, but God is infinitely more than we can ever be as a human being. And so I learned that. God allowed me to learn that the hard way. [00:08:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd say that the expansive consciousness which Is God. It's even beyond consciousness. [00:08:19] Speaker B: Yes. [00:08:20] Speaker A: It's hard to filter down into. Into us, you know, so, you know, following those cues is the best way to actually interpret it and absolutely walk the walk, the walk of faith, really? [00:08:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And wisdom. There's a definite wisdom to it. Yeah, yeah. There's a point where morality fades and. And it's all wisdom. I was seeking self empowerment at the peak. Once I released Avatar, I sort of got seduced by my public reception and started following the new age philosophy that lot of gurus do that. There's nobody here but you. You're the only being. It all comes down to you, and you are God, and there's no separation whatsoever between you. So I embraced that, got seduced by it, and took it all the way. I found as practitioners, we seek to grow in the dynamic qualities of our soul. The power of our love, our magnetism, the luminosity of our light, our ability to do miracles, synchronicities, and healing. And once I redevoted myself completely to God, of these multiplied much further than I could ever do by myself. So it's not morality serves in the absence of wisdom. But there are very wise reasons to choose this type of alignment with divinity. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Can you describe the instant healing of your eye and what it showed to you about prayer? [00:09:45] Speaker B: Yeah, that was huge. As if talking to God wasn't enough, Two weeks later, after that, I was home alone when I had a bad accident. I got stabbed in my left eye by a sharp. A bluntly sharp object. And it made a terrible wound. I hurt like hell. I go to the bathroom, look in the mirror. I'm leaking eye fluid and blood. Basically, my eyes gone. You know, there's nothing 911 can do for that. Upon realizing that, my right eye tears up. And now I'm basically blind. I can't see. But in that darkness, there was like a whis whispering voice that seemed to say, michael, we talked to God two weeks ago. Why not pray? And I said, yeah, why not? So I got right down on my hands and knees, prostrated and prayed in the way that I knew how exact words. Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, let my eye be healed. And as soon as I stop talking, every cell in my body quickens or vibrates. I get up, I look in the mirror, the blood is gone, the eye fluid is gone. The eye is perfectly healed. The tears are gone. But from the center of my forehead, a th thin stream of blood is running down. I wipe it off, and there's no wound on My forehead and massive emotional response and not all positive a bit was afraid, stunned, shocked. I didn't know what to think. I mean, this is a biblical level miracle in so much to process. All like two weeks ago, God talking to you and now an instantaneous healing of an open flesh wound. Like who's going to believe me and what comes next? You know, it was a mixed bag of feelings. [00:11:27] Speaker A: What did that do to your ego at the time? I mean, sometimes that can lead to an ego inflation because you're like, oh, I've got all this power now. Oh yeah, well, I've been through that and it made me into a bit of an idiot, personally. [00:11:39] Speaker B: Yeah, well, the ego inflation happened after I released my energy mastery course and got seduced on the path to self empowerment. While I was religiously minded, ego wasn't even a thing because it's all about God, not about me. And who knows why God chose me, But I trust God knows what God's doing. So I had no ego hangups whatsoever until I began going full speed down the path of meditation and new age spirituality. [00:12:12] Speaker A: How did your early years of direct dialogue with the Holy Spirit shape your views on traditional church teachings? [00:12:20] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Well, after the healing and God talking, I was on fire, obviously, and so doing everything I could to learn, which at the time was reading the Bible and going back to church. So reading the Bible with the Holy Spirit, I would read the passages and then I would translate them in my internal. And if I was. If reward for correct thought would be the Holy Spirit, warning for incorrect thought would be the fight adrenal. So I gleaned all sorts of things from the scriptures that the average person does not, not from the black and white. Just to throw out a couple examples, reincarnation and soulmates actually sharing a being, sharing a soul. And the church rejected these two things when I brought them, when I shared it with the elders. But I knew in my heart that it was true. Holy Spirit confirmed. And I witnessed a miracle on a level that nobody in the church I know has. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Back in 2008, when you, when you, when did you see. When you first perceived the world of spiritual energy waveforms? What. What did you see there? [00:13:38] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That was, that was amazing. Do you want me to tell the whole story or the brief? Yeah, okay, sure. No, the whole story is great. This was when it all started shifting towards meditation, energy mastery, metaphysics. This was the first profound shift. Before then it was all religious and my family thought I was crazy. There was no way I could prove things to them. You know, so. So the modus operandi of the family was Michael needs to stop praying. Michael needs to stop reading the Bible. Michael needs to just focus on his job. That's. That's what I was doing. But I got a bug in me. People were talking about the Mayan calendar in 2012. And I check in with Holy Spirit, and I. And I get the reward for correct thoughts. So, hey, there's something to this. So, yeah, typical office worker. I should be working. I'm on Google. So I type in. I type in 2012 Mayan calendar. And what pops up right away is a video by David Wilcock. And he's talking and sharing things that I've never heard before about the third eye and about, you know, all sorts of cool things. And Holy Spirit is confirming what David's saying, which is astonishing to me. And then especially when he would quote from a book called the Law of One, which is a channeling done by Carla Rer in the early 80s by an entity named Ra who comes in service of the one infinite Creator, which really helped pad it for me. So I go to this online searchable database where you can read the Law of One for free, and I start reading it, and I'm just getting confirmation after confirmation from the Holy Spirit, I would dare say in an even greater density than when I read the Bible. Like, just confirmation after confirmation and just brilliance. It was amazing. Amazing because this book would have gotten you burned at the stake a hundred years ago. And here's the Holy Spirit confirming it. So one of the passages in particular that stood out to me, Ra, was talking about that. It seems that we're in a physical reality, but this is a sensory translation provided to us by the human body, in particular the electrical system. Ra says that in truth, the greater truth is that there's waveform, universal source energy that's everywhere. And we translate that energy as the reality that we experience. And I really understood it, like I understood it in the mind and I understood it in the heart. And when I did, the Holy Spirit hit me at such a level. The voice of God returned, which had been silent for years, and said, good, now go outside and get away from people. So I did. I went out back, back of the office building, and I stopped walking. As soon as I did, the whole world started rippling and shimmering like he coming off blacktop on a summer's day, except accompanied by rainbow hues of light. It was so beautiful. And when I beheld this, I recognized it not in my mind, but in my heart, in my Internal being. It was like, I know this place. I've been here before. Not only that, I know what to do. And the action, the knowing what to do. These days, I would call it opening the heart chakra. I had no language for it back then, but the feeling was like stepping out of your chest while opening it. And as I did that, the. The rippling energy that was out there came into my body and my body started doing the same thing. Rippling, shimmering, vibrating. And I was. I was transparent. I could sort of perceive the flesh, but not really. I was embodying this rainbow energy and it was so magnificent, like. But then I had a fear based thought. I said, what if I can't rematerialize? And as soon as I had that thought, thought physical reality slams back in. No waveform energy. I'm sure that was God's response to he's not ready. You know, like, yeah. And so, so this is what, what kickstarted it. And. And for two years I cursed myself for a coward. It seemed to me that I was invited to heaven and my fear kicked me out. So I. So I sought the gate. And Holy Spirit led me to theta meditations, brainwave reduction, all sorts of things that prime the pump. But it was in a state of almost catatonic that it finally hit me. I found the spiritual focus, which is the opposite of what we would call focus. It was focusing on nothing, unfocusing, unfocusing, going slack in the brain and almost catatonic. And all of a sudden I was just vegging out. When all of a sudden the energy returned. I could see it. I could see that my hand was made out of energy. I could see that the magazine I was also was made out of energy, but less energy than my body. I could see emanations of energy from the magazine. I could see energy everywhere. Except now, since I was the one who opened the door instead of God, I had control of the dial. So I could relax and unfocus and everything would go away for him to where there was either no physical reality or just a ghostly imprint. Or I could turn it down to where there would be no waveform, no fluctuation, but everything would have like an aura or a glow around it. And that's what kickstarted everything. Because the sight is the leader of the five senses. For those who can see, right? We see something, it's great evidence that we can touch. When have we ever seen something that we then can't touch, right? Or hear or taste or smell? So it's a Very short period of time that all five senses became energetically attuned, which was when the next major shift happened. I played in the energy for about a year. I come from a family of scientists and engineers. I'm not a born believer, am a skeptic. So. So for a year straight, I gave myself skepticism and I took notes on how the energy behaves. How does it. Once I determined that it was real and that I wasn't hallucinating, I started taking notes. You know, how does it respond to my emotions? How does it respond to my thoughts? What happens if I push my hands outward? What happens if I pull my. You know, what happens if I breathe? All of it. I started to learn how the energy relates to the inner being when I had my neck. Next major profound shift. And to use spiritual terms, it was a walk in, but it was more like a walk out because it didn't come from out there. I was meditating and in the waveform perception when something rose out of my heart and took over my voice box. And I found myself mouthing the words, I am not the physical body. I am the light that flows out of it. And the instant I said those words, all of the waveform energy collapsed into my body and like a dying star going super nova, exploded back outwards, except my mind went with it. So. So before, my perception was I'm a being of energy, a tiny, little insignificant being of energy in an ocean of energy. Well, the perception now was I was the source of the energy that I was perceiving. Not only that, it was an extension of my mind and my body. I felt it as much as I felt my body being my body. And that's when I noticed that I was innately telekinet. I'm not going to claim to be able to control the elements, nor any of my students, nor any other masters that I've met. But we have a definite influence over elements. We can cause the wind to blow or shift directions, cause changes in the atmosphere, cause still water to ripple. And the most important ability, in my opinion, is healing or activation on others. We are inside and outside of our body at the same time, so we can heal other people or light up their spiritual energy to such a degree that even their illusionary physical self, which is spirit hypnotized by the nerves and neurons, is able to sense the truth of their being. Like, oh, my God, I'm a spirit inside of a body. Yes, you are. And you puppeteer your body. You're like Pinocchio. You know, science understands it's electricity from the brain that fires and clenches the muscle. Right. But what causes that to happen? So that's. That's the spirit. The spirit moves with the body. As I open my hands, my spirit is open. And that causes the polarity that causes the brain to do its thing with the muscles. And it's seamless. So you would never even know unless you do meditation or focus practices that you are a spirit. Because we're massively hypnotized and trained by the measurable electricity in the body. We come from a soft, subtle range of spirit. This is measurable electricity. So it's like boom. Sight, sound, taste, touch, smell, separation and survival, whether you want it or not. Right. [00:22:51] Speaker A: Wow, that was a huge description. And really appreciate that word, the way you frame that I've had experiences myself with, I'll put it this way, an entity that was guiding me into deeper sort of meditation sort of states. And I found that too, when you really do let go by, I would say, deconditioning yourself yourself by going into that, what you call like an. I call it like an in between space. So you're in between all of the thoughts, in between all of your understanding, taking away all of the conditions that make up our experience of the physical. Then the spiritual alignment becomes a lot clearer. And so you get that vibration experience and then the. The change of your perception of vision. And when I've actually said it myself during that time, time that I was doing this deep work, I would go into a space where it was just light everywhere. I just stopped, still light. [00:23:49] Speaker B: Wow. [00:23:50] Speaker A: Let myself concentrate a little bit or come back in, and everything would start taking forms again, like you said, transparent, you know, and become solid again. So it was a wild time and I learned a lot from it. But yeah, awesome. [00:24:03] Speaker B: So you know exactly what I'm talking about. [00:24:06] Speaker A: Oh, exactly. Yeah. That's part of the reason why I wanted to interview. And I gotta ask you, how did you train yourself to access your clairvoyance at will, and what changes did that bring to your personal daily awareness? [00:24:22] Speaker B: Well, I have been doing a series of theta meditations, and that was really the only meditations that I did. I would listen to theta metronome. In particular the binaural beats, they're too smooth. They put me to sleep. I like the metronome. Or, you know, it's jarring and it keeps you awake, but eventually it entrains you. And I wasn't clairvoyant at first. The theta meditations led to out of body experience, where actually the first Spirit that I interacted with out of the body was the divine mother, which was very curious, you know, because people are always relating the masculine to God. And once I was finally out of the body, it was the mother that I met first. But, yeah, the theta brainwaves that. That primed the pump, right. I know it gave me. Looking back with the hindsight of 20 20, I know it gave me the prerequisite. How the clairvoyance actually happened was just. I was just vegging out and I was just vegging out, just holding a magazine and just staring stupidly forwards and unfocused, as unfocused as you could be. And then bam, it happened. So now I have a refined technique that I use to teach the students how to do it, you know, involving the Vesica Pisces and. And validation of minute data and all sorts of more fancy things. But for me, it was just like if you could just do what a catatonic person does for a moment, everyone would be clairvoyant. [00:25:56] Speaker A: I like the way you put that because we're all. I mean, one of the things I discovered as a part of the work that I was doing is that we live in a space which is in spirit, but then there's within spirit. There's the choice of creation, which is love, or distraction, which is dissection of our understanding. And. And that keeps us from being into the other side. So it's very polar in a way. So when you concentrate on that. What would you call it, like a distance from that distraction and sit in that catatonic state, like you just said, then it all comes to you sort of naturally, because this is our natural real state, which is being hijacked by basically social conditioning. All of society that we live in right now, right? [00:26:40] Speaker B: Yep, yep, yeah, yeah. It comes to you. And that's the curious thing. That's how I put my inner skeptic to rest permanently. Because I would notice that as I would try to find out if what I'm seeing is actually real, as soon as I would engage the bifocal mind, it goes away. And eventually. So I said, okay, I'm just going to relax. I'm just going to trust. And that's when I received the empirical information, was by not doubting it, but just accepting it and going deeper into it. And then it's so overwhelming, so connected, like. Like you just point your finger like that and energy comes out. You can see your breath, you know, just empirically overwhelming data by. By. By faith, you know, but by not Trying to engage the logical mind to doubt it. It's the oddest thing, but that little tidbit has helped a lot of people get further with it. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I gotta ask you, why did you start the Avatar Energy Mastery Institute in 2011 and what results did students achieve? [00:27:45] Speaker B: Sure, yeah. Well, I, I would have started just from the, the clairvoyance, but it was my own personal, little private world that I couldn't prove to anybody. So I grew up. Fantasy is, is my thing. Tolkien is, is my hero. Like, that's beautiful. Like, like, if they would have asked 8 year old Michael, what do you want to be when you grow up? He'd say, like Gandalf. Like, like that, that was me. And I was born into this Muggle world with no magic, Everything boring. All science boring, math boring. Like, okay, so we can explain our world and now there's no magic in it whatsoever, no new territories to explore. So, so I had this gateway to like, real magic. So, so the very moment that I had something I could demonstrate, demos that I could upload to, YouTube demonstrations I could do, and it was like, obvious to me, well, it's time to share. Because you can let this world be magical for other people. If people study and learn what you have, then they get to live in a very magical world. And a movie in particular inspired me. The Avatar movie, the James Cameron, I believe that's the maker. Because everyone saw this movie. And the way these Nauvoo, I think that's the people, the way they lived, we all fell in love with that. They were one, their world. They could use their hair to connect to the animals and feel the breath and communicate telepathically. They had access to a level of experience that would trump all technology and all wealth. Like, can't even hold a candle to what these beings experience. And then you leave the theater, everybody felt the same way. Like, what the hell? Now we're back in this world, which is heading in this awful direction. So that movie primed the pump for me. Once I was telekinetic, once I could prove that I'm connected to something, then it was like, how could I not share? [00:29:54] Speaker A: When you demonstrated your abilities like telekinesis, publicly, what reactions did you receive at the time? [00:30:00] Speaker B: Mixed. At first. The first person that I shared it with was Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot. I do a demo where I put two fingers in water, perfectly still and run my energy and ripples come out continuously and never stop. She saw that and knew that it was legitimate, so. So she Offered to host me on. On her podcast. And so I knew that I had this upcoming interview of a size. And that also gave me the confidence to make the course. I'm like, I should. I should make my course before she interviews me and everybody that I showed in person. And it's like, there's no way to doubt it. Because even if they doubt, am I causing the air to. Or am I really causing the clouds to disappear or are they just disappearing naturally? Well, I can light up a person's spirit. I can take them into my perception. I can cause them to experience the waveform and their expanded spirit. So in person, no flack whatsoever. But I had. This was back in 2011. Like, these days we've got thousands of channels of people demonstrating things. And back then I was either the first or one of the first. I remember having to suffer a decently sized podcast devoting a whole entire episode to making fun of me. Like playing my videos one by one and just laughing at me, which was interesting. It really affected me back then. But I actually got students from their podcast that would write me. And I don't know why these guys were making fun of you. How can they not see that what you're doing, you know, is real? So, yeah, at first it was probably like 30% dislikes back then you could dislike on YouTube because it wasn't so politically polite like it is now. So it was about 30, 30, 70 in year one. But as I stood in my own. As I stood in my power and the more students that joined the Avatar Energy Mastery Institute and got results by the end on my old YouTube channel, which I unfortunately lost in 2019 when they were deleting YouTube channels, you know, that weren't giving the right. You know, a lot of people lost their YouTube channels in 2019. But yeah, I used to have a 93, 90 to 93% like to dislike ratio. And I had maybe 30, 40 videos. I'm not into doing hundreds of demos. I think five or six or seven good ones is plenty. The point of what I teach is not the power. It's like, hard to even call it power. So I can cause the wind to blow, so I can cause little changes in the weather or make the sun come out through cloudy skies. Like, I wouldn't exactly call that power, but what I would call it is absolute evidence that we can be one with this world in spirit. And to actually be one with the air, to feel sunlight like an extension of your body, to feel the earth beneath your feet and the plants and the Trees as being a part of your being that never gets boring. That's a miracle that never stops. Stops. [00:33:10] Speaker A: That's because that's our pure source, nature, which is what we really are. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Yes. Everything in nature elevates the soul. You could just be one with a leaf, the grass, the sky, the sun, the water in the air, the tree, birds, squirrel, and everything in nature heals. Most of the things in the man made world do the opposite of healing. But I don't think it'll be like that forever. [00:33:35] Speaker A: It's always a pendulum that swings in one direction, then goes to the extreme, then goes back to the other. So things are in cycles, it'll cycle back? [00:33:42] Speaker B: I believe so, yeah. [00:33:43] Speaker A: Personally? Yeah, yeah. What kinds of people came to your trainings and what common outcomes did they report? [00:33:50] Speaker B: Oh, all sorts of different walks of life. Obviously there's the gung ho meditators and spiritual people that have had experiences themselves and they're looking for the next level of enlightenment. Enlightenment. That, that's an obvious one. But I had engineers, doctors, I even trained two licensed practicing psychologists, although all the way to mastery level. One psychologist even made a YouTube channel and was posting videos of himself doing telekinesis. And this was really curious. I, I like you're a psychologist and, and you. So I would write them when, when, when they would, would join, you know, I used to have a welcome thing, you know, tell me about yourself. And they'd say, oh, you know I'm a psych private message them and say why are you studying with me? I'm certifiably insane. You know, I am. All I have to do to get on disability is go to a psychiatrist and tell them the truth. You know, I would never want to but funny enough, I'm sharing this because they both gave the same answer. They said because I actually want to be able to help my patients. They know, just as I knew because I've been in mental hospitals at the behest of my family. To calm them down, I would do voluntary stays. And I noticed that 80 to 90% of people with so called mental disorders, they've had a spiritual activation with no framework to understand it by. And the only feedback frightened family members. And so they end up with a doctor and pills and, and let's cut it out and let's invalidate their, their experience. So these psychologists knew there was something more to it and that's why they were studying and listening. [00:35:37] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. What factors contributed to your public challenges in 2019 and how did they impact [00:35:44] Speaker B: your Relationships, Yeah, quite a bit. So that was my spiritual warfare phase. So once I came forward and made myself public, I attracted or just into my reality came a whole series of beings that were awake in a way that was beyond me at the time. I was expanded. But these people, they were inside and outside of their body with their eyes. So they dwelled on both sides of the veil at the same time. And they were playing to use the law of one material. They were playing the negative game, the quest for power. And in their belief there is no God, the self is God, that it all comes down to you. And if one of us doesn't do that, then there will be nothing thing for everyone else. So it was a slow burn into a seduction where true God, prime creator, source, whatever you want to call it, I've found to be the ultimate respecter of free will. So if you choose this path, God's not going to get in your way. And I actually got a lot of evidence pulling off feats and miracles of my own will and my own volition that gave me tangible evidence. Yes, this is true. So I went with it. I put the pedal to the metal and went all the way because I didn't have hindsight yet. So looking back now, I can see clearly what went wrong. When you espouse the idea that you yourself are God, not one with God, but you are God, the alpha, the omega, the first, the last, you're the only being here, as so many gurus like to say, you're the only one here. So it's the same type of polished up negative doctrine that seduce me. But when you embrace that like attracts like, that's the law of attraction. So you automatically pull into your sphere both people and entities that have the same beliefs as you. And what happens when you get two entities in the same space that believe they are God supreme? Well, it's a fight. And that's spiritual warfare in a nut bag. People hear the term spiritual warfare and they sort of feel safe. They'd be like, oh yeah, it sounds better than going to Vietnam with a machine gun. But really it's an inside out wrestling match for dominion of your mind, your body and your soul. If you're not built for it, it would be the most horrifying, frightening thing ever. I was highly qualified for it and I do believe that it was a part of my destiny to engage in spiritual warfare. I took to it like, like a fish in water. And I did really, really good enough to where these, these negative beings were far more terrified of me than I could be of them, but there was a big cost to that. So I went dark. Not evil, but dark. And I frightened away. I lost everything that I cherished and held dear. I lost my website. I drove away everybody positive in my life. And the most devastating of all, I lost my soulmate. But it was my soulmate who brought me back with her love. Her response to this, she was also on. On the New age path of seeing the self as God. But her response to what happened to me was she began to pray, she began to reach out, she began to authentically seek God. And she found it like she found Christ. She found the God of love. And so she reintroduced that to me, and she came back into my life and she's like, michael, what happened to you? You're a man of God. How did this happen? And so I had continuity moment where I expanded my spirit and I reached out and I pretty much said, I've come as far as I can on my own. If there's truly something greater than me, then show yourself now. And then the Holy Spirit flooded back in it just so supremely and so much love and power and potential that was beyond me. And I held a lot at that time, like I was a baby in 2008 compared to who I was in 2019. But God still effortlessly overwhelmed me with loving power. And I would say that God forgave me, but that's so human. There's nothing to forgive. As I started contemplating forgiveness, God said, there's no such thing as sin. There's just immaturities that are bound to happen in the absence of certain wisdom. And so God just gave me the love and showed me the tree of life and asked for my donation or my devotion, which I instantly gave. And it's a contract. The contract is to devote your ego consciousness to loving God. And if you can do that, then what God has shown me, not just in words and communication at that time, but by consistent results, is that we can overcome our physicality, but it requires God. God said, michael, you did really good by yourself in your philosophy. The nerve fiber system of the human body is the conductor for the spirit. Spirit, you were working on growing the nerves and expanding the nerves. And your idea was that eventually you could hold enough spirit to overcome your physical condition. God said, I designed the nervous system to not be able to hold enough energy to do that. It's a protection mechanism. Because if somebody transcended the physical without God, then they could be a tyrant. You know, it could be really bad for the world and creators don't risk their creations. They don't gamble. You know, they set things up. So what God shows showed me was that to master this reality requires both an energy master and devotion to God. And that God showed me that this is possible. And I will help you, but it requires devotion of your ego to loving God. And I've seen the wisdom in that, you know, that God said it, I felt it, I knew it was true. So, so I devoted myself. But once again, with hindsight, I got to see that I was free, permanently free from the influence of negative spirits. I'm not even sl slightly the same person. We view time as before Christ and after Christ. I view my life as before Tree of Life. After Tree of Life. Before Tree of Life, all sorts of mistakes and blunders and unrighteous thoughts and unrighteous actions and constant temptation, constant morality checks. Post Tree of Life is totally different. It is so different. Just to give an example, the average male being thinks about sex supposedly 100 times a day. I was no different. Well, after the Tree of Life, I never think about sex unless I'm having it. There's no reason to. So I've learned that we're in a yin yang reality. And I know this will shock a lot of people or they might even try to deny it, but this is the reality of good and evil. Spirit precedes all thoughts and all actions. So every thought and every action we take has spirit as a precedent. And in that that it's either. It's either a spirit of the light or a spirit of the darkness. And by their fruits you will know them. When you work with the right spirits, you get health of the body, peace of the mind, upliftment of emotions, magnification of synchronicity and miracles and magic. And that's the evidence. And when you're working with the other spirits, it's the opposite of that. You get ascension symptoms, you can't sleep at night, you get brain fog, you know all sorts of of symptoms. [00:43:56] Speaker A: Now, you mentioned the Tree of Life there as a living spiritual construct. Can you actually describe how you were introduced to that as an understanding? [00:44:06] Speaker B: Well, that was God, right When I reached out to realign myself with God, as soon as God flooded through my body, God showed me I'm using words, but it was so telepathic and so advanced that it was actually all of these words that I'm saying in a flash, like in two seconds, all of this was communicated. And it was what I said about the nerves that God was congratulating me for. How far that I met. But let me know that I could only get so far on my own. Because the creator of this world has set up safeguards to where this reality can only be mastered by those who choose loving harmony with the creator of this world. And God showed me all at once the Tree of Knowledge. A tree is an ancient word for matrix. A matrix is a of circuits that allow us to interpret vibration as reality. Without a tree, without a matrix, there's just that waveform fluctuating universal source energy. With a matrix, with a tree, we can decode it as sight, sound, taste, touch, smell, ground, sky, you know, we can reality, it makes reality. So I call the nervous system of the human body the neuron structure of the brain. That's the tree of knowledge. It's what we were born into when our spirit fused itself to the body. So what the tree of life is, is a set of metaphysical pathways. They're not physical. God holds them as an idea construct. And they're both inside the body and outside the body. So it's new pathways that spirit can adhere or anchor to that first, augment and harmonize the internal systems like the neuro, the vascular, the cardio, the lymphatic, like all of these, they get harm and brought in. They get glorified, for lack of a better word. And then once that harmony happens, then they start to grow out of your body. So before I could expand out of the nerves and into the body and I would do that through the empty space, through projection of consciousness. But now with the tree of Life, I have tangible pathways that I can feel. They have magnetic locations. So God is providing these pathways which allow for transcendence of the physical state. And, and I can testify so far my emotional structure has changed entirely. I still have the emotion, the human emotional tree, but I have these points, it's almost like constellation stars that are inside the body and outside of the body. And every star is humming like, almost singing with these celestial emotions. So even when I'm sad or feeling fear or negative human emotions, these celestial emotions are on full blast. So I'm still human, I still have the human range, but I have this complimentary celestial emotional system that supports me within that. So life isn't even slightly the same. I seek symbiosis now in all of my relationships. I get no pleasure from shaming a person or from making fun of a person. And it's not because of morality. It's all, it's all wisdom. You know, I'm full of the right spirit constantly. So every Action that I naturally take has led towards symbiosis. Like I used to struggle in my relationship with my mother. I would dare say that I was her least favorite child. And I would now also dare say that I'm probably the favorite. Like every relationship that I have and hold dear has blossomed. And quite naturally, not by me having to make moral choices, but by me just living life naturally. [00:47:53] Speaker A: That's beautiful. Now for the listeners, can you explain practices that you have, such as Holy Breath and Heart of Christ, and how people can start to access with them? [00:48:03] Speaker B: Sure. Holy Breath is a practice. To really have a full relationship with God requires a lot more than prayer. Because if prayer is all you have and you're attached to the electrical system in the reality of separation, then God has to overwhelm you with energy to a point where it manifests as the electricity and the tingles. But once you found your spirit, once you know yourself and you're in and out of the body, then God can communicate with you through the subtle ranges. So once I found out that the wisest thing I can do in the moment is love God. Because love is an attractive force. It's a property of space. As your space becomes more loving, you open up and you have more space, which invites more of God to dwell in your being. It increases every dynamic quality of your soul. So then the question becomes, how can I love God more? How can I amplify this? And that's where the Holy Breath technique came from, which is one of the core foundations of my metaphysical church, which is in devotion of the self to loving God in the moment. The best way that I found to do that is this technique, the Holy Breath, which requires some. Some foundational experiential wisdom. First, you have to connect your breath to energy, which is an awakening level exercise that I teach, where you learn the BRE more than anything at the soul level is a psychological symbol that we use to move energy. We can move energy with our hands, with our arms, our legs. And our breath is also a metaphysical muscle in spirit. So I teach the students first to learn to breathe in and out of their hands, in and out the top of their head, through their heart. And obviously, you can't move physical level air, but you can move ether with the breath and feel it tangibly. Then the next level is to breathe spherically, to breathe energy from 360 degrees in and out. And it's that level of breath attachment that we use. So we expand our consciousness, our mind, past our body. We open up our aura with the Intention of loving God. God is omnipresent. There's nowhere that God is not. God is everywhere that you decide God is. So when you expand the mind and the consciousness with the desire to know and love more of God, there God is. And that action of loving God causes God to love you back, which causes a tangible, vibrational, loving energy in the air around you. What you do then is you hold that like it's the greatest treasure in the world. And you do a long, slow, contracted inhale with the breath 360 degrees until you can feel those loving particles polarize and rush into your soul. And with each loving breath of God that you take, your soul mass grows like you start to become like a fortress inside, like crystallizing and growing outward like more of God takes a permanent place within your being. And that, that's the practice of the holy breath. The practice of the heart of Christ is based on a realization that I had. I did a full expansion, expanded all the way out until the universe stops. Surrounding the universe, I found God. The closest human translation is the void, because there is no brain translation for it. But it's this infinite eternal nothing that is the source of everything. It's impossible to put in words, but I found God surrounding the universe with its eye turned inward. Then I did the journey the other direction, inwards. And I discovered there's an even greater density within the heart of the human. So I let go of the body and went into this. And it's like a diamond, like a brilliant diamond of white light radiating positive energy outwards. Well, I passed through that, that seemingly solid structure. And I was astonished to find the same thing in there that was out there, the infinite, the form was, the name was the void that the eternal, you know, God itself. Except this was a different perspective of God because this is God on the inside looking out. And I call that perspective of God the Christ. And it lives inside of each of us. We each have the same center of the universe within us. Because the universe is observer based. Even science is starting to understand that. So we all have the heart of Christ within us. So the practice of the heart of Christ couples with the practice of the holy breath. So you love God on the inside, inside and you love God on the outside and you accumulate more, more of God on the inside through that practice. [00:52:45] Speaker A: Brilliant. I love that. It's, it actually resonates to some of the experiences I've had in the past as well. And it's actually more confirming for me. So thank you. [00:52:55] Speaker B: Awesome. Yeah, you're very welcome. Yeah, it's, it's just, it's, it's wisdom. You know, everything that I tried to obtain with self mastery and determination and manifestation and all this work just now happens. Effortless. I've never been healthier. I've never been comfier in my body. Like the payoff of this. I would love to claim to be a moral being, but I'm not. I've just got wisdom and I'm adhering to the wisdom and it's getting so much results. There's another practice I could talk about that I call the living water. And that's where with enough spiritual attunement and with enough of the love of God within your being, you start to gain a connection to your body through the water through, because we're 70 something percent water. So instead of just having an electrical connection, you have a living water connection through your body. And as you gain that, it's like I have a type of hydraulics. Like as I move the body, I'm moving with muscles and with spirit. I can feel the water molecules flexing and moving with the spirit. So it's 20 times more comfortable to be in my body now at age 52 than it was in my 20s. It's like I have this hydraulic magnetic universal support which is love itself. [00:54:17] Speaker A: That's cool. What advice do you have for someone that's facing their own spiritual or personal crisis? [00:54:27] Speaker B: Put God at the center of your practice and the sooner the better. Intention and expectation is all that's required. And imagination Here in the field physical, we have a stark separation between imagination and reality. We have a stark separation between intention and action or intention and result in spirit. When you're out of the body, these things are inseparably fused. Intention and expectation and imagination equals reality and action. So just you choosing God. It's the part of God that's all love and it lives in you. It's in the very center of your heart. So if you, you choose heart, you, you've chosen Christ. And it's such a pure love that it doesn't care by what name it's called, just that you choose it. And, and you'll be far off better for it. Realize that God lives on, on the inside. And a lot of spiritual people have done this. But where they tend to fall short is they don't do God on the outside. So to use their, their own philosophy as within. So without. If you've truly found God on the inside, then God has to be outside. Well, so God within, I call that the Gift. God without is the guide. And so knowing that God is within is all the more reason to pray. Like, give prayer a chance. Prayer is how you talk to God. Meditation is. Is how you receive God. So don't get so hung up on, I can't pray because I'm one with God. Well, that's all the more reason to pray. Jesus Christ prayed, and there's nobody that ever walked this earth that was more God than him, and he prayed. So there's very clever voices. They're very clever. They'll disguise as your own thoughts and they'll. They'll have you say things like, my whole life's a prayer. I don't need to pray, you know, but, yeah, it's. It's tricky, that one. [00:56:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I think everyone gets that one once in a while. Yeah, so. [00:56:32] Speaker B: And I would agree the whole life is a prayer. But, but, but a prayer itself is very focused. You know, all of life is communion too. But I still do my practice, and that's focal, you know, it very focal. Honed in. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I think keeping up that connection is like a feedback loop that increases your connection as well. [00:56:53] Speaker B: It does, absolutely. This is all about results and wisdom, not. Not about morality. We. We don't seek to do the right thing. We seek to do the wise thing. And God has shown me it's one in the same. [00:57:07] Speaker A: Before we started talking today, we had a little bit of a chat about Bali and how that had a big impact on you. How did that time in Bali influence your current te teachings and live streams? [00:57:17] Speaker B: Oh, well, that. That's where. Where they all came from. So once the spiritual warfare happened, I. I lost my websites by treating everyone the wrong way. I lost my business manager, Lost my YouTube channel, lost my. Lost to everything. So here I was with nothing. But luckily, you know, enough people knew about me to where I always had students. They would find me even if I wasn't publicly available. But that now that I'm maturing, that I'm engaged in this practice of communion, that I'm receiving the Tree of Life, that I'm going to want to share this with people. So I planted seeds in my heart for, like, three years. And the year I spent in Bali was when these seeds sprouted. So I had no idea what the metaphysical church was going to be or what the teachings were going to be. So I just let these seeds in the heart sprout. So I spent every day focused on loving God and letting go. These seeds of wisdom sprout from the heart, and then just all Of a sudden, six months into Bali, I knew it was time to make the new structure, to come forward with the new teachings. They all appeared in my mind like. Like all. All at once. It's how I do things these days. I don't brainstorm, I don't think. I don't pre formulate anything that I'm going to say. I plant seeds in the heart, and if these seeds are worthy, they'll grow up into the mind. And when the time is right, they will blossom. So all of this happened in Bali, of all my new teachings. And I lived in the rice terraces, and it was just the perfect environment. I got to watch the farmers, the indigenous farmers doing their thing and watch the white herons and the fireflies at night. It was just. It was heaven. It was a slice of heaven on earth. [00:59:11] Speaker A: What future directions do you see for your students? So how is that going? How is your message and your methods of teaching and going to change in your future works? [00:59:25] Speaker B: I don't think it is going to change. I think where I'm at now is going to lead as far as we need to go. I'm not going to claim to be the only one. There's no way that I could be. When you're onto something that's real, it spreads like contagion. I'm sure that there's others that are working on the same thing, but I believe that the religious community, they have something and they shouldn't be dismissed. A lot of them are miracle workers. They can pray and receive real miracles. So the religious community, they have God on the outside, and that's great. What they're lacking is a knowledge of their own spirit. And you can only get so far trying to know God without knowing yourself. Right? So they're missing God on the inside. The spiritual people, they've gotten good with God on the inside, but they're missing the guide. They're missing God on the outside, they're missing prayer, they're missing the Tree of Life and all sorts of things. So these teachings, I've put myself between a rock and a hard place because spiritual people think God is a dirty word and religious people think energy work is the devil. I knew that going into it. So I'm playing a long game. My heart knows because I'm an energy master. I've been at this a long time. I do it because these practices are the most powerful. I'm not doing it because it's the right thing to do. I'm doing it because it's the wise thing to do. So I believe that this is the next direction for the spiritual community and it's the next direction for the religious community. I'm not saying I'm that next direction, but I'm saying that what I'm onto is that the religious community and the spiritual community are going to start to blend and start to become one. They're going to begin to overlap. Instead of the spiritual people laughing at the religious people, and instead of the religious people calling the spiritual people devil workers, we're going to finally have some cohesion, you know, where they can start to see eye to eye. So I think this will be a big step forward in the formation of Earth's collective consciousness, which is now quite collectively unconscious. Earth is still pretending that it's not one giant mind. It's like one mind that's at war with itself. And that can only last so long. I can testify. Earth is a soul and we're all a part of that soul. And galactic consciousness is heavily invested here. We're not the only ones. Earth is so important, and so it will come about one, one way or another. But I believe that we're on a much less painful trajectory. So I look forward to seeing it play out. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Excellent. So, Michael, we've come towards the end of the podcast. How can people engage with you and your work? [01:02:12] Speaker B: Sure. Whether they're interested in the self empowerment or the metaphysical church teachings, they're all combined. You can't do the metaphysical church church teachings without the self empowerment. However, I respect people's right to reject my spiritual philosophy or to view God a different way. So I kept the self empowerment teachings separate. But no matter which one you're interested in, they're both umbrella under my bio site, which is michaelmonk. Bio bio. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Excellent. I'll provide that link into the show notes down below. [01:02:45] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:02:45] Speaker A: I want to thank you so much for you're sharing today. You've had such deep experiences and obviously to me, you've connected with them with a truth and authenticity that makes you able to share them so clearly. And I've appreciated all of it. [01:03:01] Speaker B: I appreciate it too. Yeah, you've really brought out the best in me. So I appreciate you. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. All right, Look, I've got to tell you, when I first was introduced to Michael by his social media manager, I think it was on email, I read it and went, oh my God, this guy's potentially going to be amazing. And I went and read his bio and watched some of these videos on YouTube. And to be honest, this man fits the spiritual archetype of holy man. And I've got to say, that was a great interview. And if you've enjoyed today's episode, reach out to Michael. Seriously, you know, he's got a lot of great teachings, and I'm sure that you'll learn a lot by working with him and his works. And if you've enjoyed today's show, like, and subscribe. And if you're on YouTube, write us a comment, tell us what you thought about it. That'd be really appreciated. Appreciated. And if you're in a podcast listening, give me five stars and say something nice there. 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