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[00:00:00] Speaker A: It. We are given a gift. Every fraction of a second, we are given a gift called the present. And we can, we can do whatever we want with it. Why not do something good?
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Welcome to Supernormalize, the podcast, where we challenge the conventional break boundaries and normalize the seemingly supernatural. Join me, CJ, as we explore less uncharted realms of existence and unravel the mysteries of life. Experience my treasured listeners, if you have a life story or healing modality or unique knowledge that you'd love to share, reach out to me at supernormalized. That's supernormalized with a Z at Proton me. Let's together embrace acceptance of the supernatural and unusual as what it really is. Completely normal. Today on Supernormalized, I have the pleasure to interview Dr. Mark Weissman, a modern day UF Hathner dedicated to his ancestral god Odin. Former Minister turned researcher, he has delved into religions worldwide, finding his cultural and spiritual home. With advanced degrees in religion, psychology and telecommunications, Dr. Weissman has developed effective methods for dealing with PTSD and helping others build methods of walking away from that whole structure that does not help their lives. As a sworn Ulfafna, his mission is to use his gift from Odin to assist friends and family in overcoming obstacles and finding success and hope. Dr. Weissman's easygoing personality has made him a favorite among all ages, offering a non judgmental approach to help navigate tough times. Providing both personal security and spiritual understanding, he spreads a message of peace and ultimately, hope.
Welcome to Supernormalized Dr. Mark Weissman. Now, Dr. Weissman, Mark, you are a. I'm going to get this word right. Uf Hathna.
Okay.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: That's right. You got it that time.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Can you share your journey of becoming a modern day ufatna and your connection with the ancestral god Odin? Obviously, you weren't born like this. How did that happen to you?
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Well, yes, actually I was. Come to think of it, I just didn't know it until later.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Yes, of course.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: So technically, when I was doing some ancestry research, got into digging and digging and digging. And the wonderful records of the Danish government allows you to go many years back.
And what we discovered in those searches was that 53 generations ago, my 53rd great grandfather was an UV Hefner for his tribe, for the Peterson tribe there in, so he was acclaimed. And there's records of that occurring. There's stories obviously, that have been passed down through our generations of his exploits in time. Fast forward.
He was born in about 730 AD.
Fast forward to about 1100. And I have several of my grandfathers who were accused of Wolf Hefnar put on trial and given a judgment of outlaw, which is bad in Norse society. So they were cast out by the Christian Church. I have two grandfathers that were essentially burned at the stake for being heretics. And then fast forward to my great grandmother being moving to the United States with my great grandfather.
And then my father and his father both denounced being Ulfnar. They didn't want anything to do with it, and so they went on their lives. Coincidentally, both of them died early in their lifetimes.
There's something to be said there for the protections of the Ulf Hefnar. I came to find this path, this history. I mean, I had heard the stories when I was a child.
I had heard, particularly my great grandmother, telling stories of this. And so I kind of grew up knowing they were there. But it wasn't until I had been a Christian chaplain for about ten years when Odin came to me and kind of laid it out.
I was introduced to, I guess maybe officially introduced to a group of spirits whom I communicate with, referred to as the Lanvetti, which is. Lenvetti is simply a Norse word that means the spirits of the land.
And they communicate with me quite frequently. I had always kind of thought I was hearing voices, you know what I mean? Kind of kept it quiet. I didn't want anyone to know until I discovered who they were and what they brought for me and what they would teach me. Since that day, till now, I have been teaching a message of peace, helping people to establish kind of a synchronicity within their minds, to allow them to understand how energy, the energies of the universe, spiritual energy, how it affects our mental health, even if we want to deny it and say it doesn't exist. One of my growing up memories was my father. And looking back now, of course, hindsight being the best vision, my father, denouncing his title of Uf Hathnar, drank himself into a.
So, looking at it now, I say that was his coping mechanism of dealing with that, all that energy that he's trying to repel, that he shouldn't have been, but he's wanting to be his own man. He's wanting to do his own thing. And it drove him, my grandfather, the same thing.
I never met my grandfather. He died before I ever got to meet him, but he was the same way.
Wound up. He was a stone carver on the east coast, and he wound up drinking himself into a grave. Why? Because they were competing with all of this energy that was killing them.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: And if they'd have just allowed it to come in. It had been the healing energy they needed to grow and to learn and to love and to blossom into the full human being they could have been.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: So it sounds like that what's happening there is their true faith was being denied, and in being denied, it affected them and turned into disease.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: That's right. Whenever we deny our truths, whatever they are, irrelevant of who we are and what we are, when we start denying this truth, we find a negative energy that's generated. That's created. And that negative energy can not only affect the individual who is creating this energy, but sometimes it can affect those around us. We see this very frequently when we talk about behavior patterns passed from generation to generation, right? We see an abusive father who creates an abusive son, who creates an abusive grandson, and so on and so forth. So we're seeing this pattern why? Because of this. Negative energy is being implanted on the DNA of this child and the child not knowing and, of course, denouncing, maybe even inadvertently denouncing any kind of truth that they should be allowing in. They're creating their own kind of negative cycle that will continue, that continues endlessly unless acted on by an opposite energy. Right? So negative energy is going to keep spinning until we decide to act. We invoke the energy of hope, the energy of love, the energy of light, and we can counteract that spin, and then we can begin to heal the wounds that have been caused by it. And then we're going to say, we're going to see it dissipate to where? Now we're full of love, we're full of light, we're full of growth.
And that's really what I try to do. I work a lot with returning veterans from conflict or psychologically traumatic injury.
And one of the things that we try to.
Kind of the first big elephant in the room is to say, okay, look, this is the new you, but it doesn't have to be. Science has already showed us that human beings modify their DNA throughout their lifetime. You can change who you are, and you have all the authority and all the power and all the energy in the world that you need to make that change.
And so the power of hope is your engine. I mean, that's what's going to drive a change in the person. When we start changing the mindset, we can start changing the behaviors, we start changing the world. And that's really what I tried to do.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: Excellent. Right. So, obviously, you had an attraction and being felt drawn to faith in the first place to become a minister and that obviously was also touching on the path of an orphanafna. And in doing so, you were being led to it. It was just going to happen, wasn't it?
[00:11:26] Speaker A: Right, and that's exactly right.
When I stopped denying it is when the path started to really open and I started saying, well, in my Christian faith, I struggled. I had questions, some of the most basic to me, the most fundamental questions that I couldn't answer with all the books there is printed about Christianity. I had done all the reading, I had served for ten years as an ordained minister, and I could not find the answer.
What the answer was was that the truth was only a sliver of Christianity. The rest of it's this practice that the thou shall, thou shalt means. It's a practice. It's not the spiritual side of it. And so I needed to get to the spiritual side of it. And when I got there, I realized that that's much bigger than one perspective, which is what Christianity is. It's just a single perspective, no different than the Nation of Islam, no different than the Judaism or Hinduism or Buddhism. Everyone has a perspective that they're looking at an energy source referred to as a deity. Everyone has a different view of them, but it's all the same thing. They're all looking to it for energy and for motivation or hope or health or all these things. They're just looking at it from a different angle.
And so as I began to understand spirituality, that's when I began to understand that no one's really wrong. I mean, I can't look at a study and devout Christian and go, no, that's not the way things are.
I can't do that, because they're going to have their own beliefs based on their DNA, based on their chemistry, based on their community, based on many different factors, lead them to where they need to be. And of course, we can never leave out the value, maybe even the impact that our ancestors still have on us as they communicate across the spiritual realm. They're telling us, man, this isn't where you belong. You belong over here. Very much in my story.
When I met, I got to meet.
I was so fortunate to have a vision in January of 2020 where I came face to face with Odin, my supreme God, the all father Odin.
And in this vision, I embraced arms with him. I touched him, I smelled him, I felt his presence there.
It became clear that things had led me to a know who he was, because it didn't take long before I swore an oath to him.
But how? All of these pieces kind of fed together. And, of course, Odin would then tell me that Nelsina, my great grandmother, had told know there's another Ufnar, there's another hope, there's another chance.
And Odin, being who he is, knew it was to be and accepted my oath. And since then, till now, I swear my life upon Odin.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: Can you describe for the listeners what an you get? What is it? Like a witch or a wizard or a sorcerer or where are we, then, with that?
[00:15:33] Speaker A: Really? None of the above.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: None of the above.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: Were actually in the sagas of Norse legend.
Uf Hefners were warriors. They were very much the same thing. Everyone's familiar with the burst circle.
Everybody knows that they bit their shields. Many people are convinced they use psychedelics to go into combat and to become impervious to iron fire and those things to win battles. That was the burskerker. Well, the bursurker and the Ulf Hefnar are the same in that piece. The difference with the Ulf Hefnar, of course, let me back up one moment and say the word berserker means the bear, the pelt of the.
[00:16:30] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: That's what it means in Old Norse. So berserkers were bears. They were spiritually attached to bears. Ulf Hefnar, or wolf pelt, meant the Ulf Hefnars are attached to the spirit animals of the wolves.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Right?
[00:16:47] Speaker A: So we would adopt their methodology of fighting. Well, we all know how bears fight. Bears are brute power.
They're very strong. They're usually independent. They're just beasts. Right?
Whereas wolves are smarter. No offense to my brethren, who are bursirs. No offense, my brothers.
Wolves are smarter. They're cunning. They're thoughtful. They hunt in packs.
They corner animals. So they're using more strategy, they're using more thought processes during the hunt. So the old Hefnars were granted an additional permission. I'm not sure if that's the word I'm looking for, but we were giving another skill, and that was to communicate with the Lenvetti.
And so when uf Hefners went to war, and they were employed by chieftains and kings and everyone, when uf Hefners went to war, it was rare that uf Hefners actually engaged in conflict because they could use the Lenvetti to act for them. So, in other words, if you were an army and you were challenging my chieftain's army and you were crossing a field, the Ulf Hefners could call upon the Lenvetti to a flash flood or a rainstorm. That just wouldn't quit. That would then essentially make the quagmire of this meadow that the opposing armies were trying to cross. Trees could fall over.
Rock slides could take out swaths of army. And they did this because thefnars were calling upon the Lenvetti to help to assist with the conflict. Well, this led to a relationship, obviously, between these men and the Lenvetti, and therefore, that evolved into where the Ulf Hefnars became when they weren't in combat. They were shamans.
They were the religious figure. They were the advisors to the king, to the chieftain, to the jarals of that area. And so they would advise based on what the Lenvettis were telling them. And so that's kind of evolved to where it is today. Now, in my case, I don't go into combat. I don't.
Not much left of that anymore for us old guys. So I use my connection to the Lenvetti to advise, to teach, to help, and to help individuals find their way through the quagmire of their mental health influences that modern day society has a tendency to put on us. Whether it be stereotyping, whether it be the paradigm of monotheism or whatever it is, as you find the truth, these folks are able then to conquer what mental health struggles they're having and to live more happy, more productive lives the way they want to and not dictated by the fates.
So that's what the modern uf Hefner does, or that's what this one does, I should say. I shouldn't claim all my brothers, but this one. This is what this one does.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm curious as to the nature of the Lambetti. Are they nature spirits? What are they, like, elementals?
[00:20:50] Speaker A: They can be.
There's actually a group, Lamvettis are kind of.
There's a very large group of them, and it all depends on where you are and who you're interacting with. But Lambettis can be spirits of the land, which would be spirits that may or may not have ever had a physical form before.
So they are just here advising or watching or learning or whatever. And then there's also Lenvetti of, as I mentioned, our ancestors who are still here, who may or may not have taken another physical form after being our ancestor.
And so they can be called upon anywhere. I mean, we could be anywhere and call upon our ancestors to help. And because of our spiritual connection to one another, we'll make contact.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Right.
How has your advanced degrees in religion, psychology, and telecommunications influenced your understanding of spirituality and its impact on human psychology.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: Boy, that's an all encompassing question.
You know, the. The.
I think, quite honestly, it was during my studies in theology in. In seminary, where I actually discovered this idea of other things outside of this mainstream. Thou shalt believe this. And that's it. So that was kind of the springboard that led me to understand spirituality as a whole. Right.
Certainly there was a lot of learning I had to do and a lot of communications with Lenvettis and others to grow there. I think I would say it took a while for me to recognize.
The first thing I recognized when it talks about psychology is the paradigm of the structure of monotheism, modern monotheism, against what we're asking people to do.
As a chaplain, I worked with. It's where I started my work with veterans and first responders who were witnessing almost everything that Christianity says don't do right. So thou shalt not kill. Well, it's an Iffy area because you might want to kill if you want to bring you and your teammates home, right. If you want to survive and you want your teammates to survive. So it might be advantageous to do that. And so there was a lot of conflict, and this is what caused, in most cases, the struggle that our veterans saw was trying to reconcile these two, what they had witnessed against what they had grown up absolutely knowing.
And it caused just an enormous amount of mental health struggles. And as I began to work in a chaplain, I started seeing this, and I started saying, well, why do you feel that way? And what's driving you to think that about yourself? And over and over and over and over and over again, I kept hearing, oh, well, we're comparing what we had to do against what we've been taught, and there's this huge disconnect that's causing a lot of struggle and a lot of pain. And so that's where I think I took some psychology classes in trying to understand the subconscious, all the different consciousness. Right.
And I started to really drill down with the Lenvetti is to understand why we call this thing and how did they identify this thing? And I guess I asked the right questions because I really began to get a really detailed answer as to how our spiritual self communicates, both with our physical form and other spiritual entities and sometimes simultaneously. And it's not until we start having a belief in that spiritual entity within us that we begin to see that mental health, those stress levels start coming down, those understandings, those greater.
I think the Christian word for it is forgiveness. But we start having some of those surrenderings, some of those, reducing the defensive mechanisms so that we can begin to express things like love and emotion and not buy in on all the stereotyping that's gone on around that and saying, it's okay for a man to cry. It really is. If he's hurt, if he's sorry or he has sorrow in his heart, let him cry it out. I mean, it's the greatest thing ever.
Or laugh it out, whatever it is that will help you move to the next level. Don't get stuck in those paradigm locks that all too often we see are handed down generation to generation. And it's wonderful. When I see the people I work with now, they come to me, and we spend the first couple of weeks, and they're struggling, and they're really trying to wrap their minds around letting go of that paradigm, letting go of that old belief system and go, okay, now, instead of seeing religion, religion this wide, now let's strip away the practice. And we got spirituality left.
So let's focus on that spirituality. And, of course, as we drill into it, we realize the scope of it. And I think a lot of people are able to see past that framework that has trapped them for so long and are able to get free and get relaxed and again find happiness. They find Hope. Hope is the greatest engine we have, and yet many people surrender it. We can't have Hope taken away, never. Hope cannot. I can't take away someone's hope and say, you are never going to leave this house.
I haven't taken away your hope.
I've taken away a passageway.
But if you have Hope, what do you think? You say, oh, he'll eventually let me out, or, I'm going to find a way out.
You start thinking about. But it's that hope that drives you, that engine of hope. It cannot be extinguished.
We can surrender a lot of it.
We can say, oh, no, Hope. I'm sure there are many people I've spoken with, many of my friends who served in Vietnam, and one man in particular who came and we started talking. And of course, he saw me for quite a while.
But he was a POW, I think he said he was captured in, like, late 65 and was released in 1970. So he spent five years in captivity, five plus years in captivity. And that was the whole goal of the opposing forces, was to crush Hope. Was to crush it. And he kept saying, every day he said his mantra when he woke up every morning is, today's the day I'm going to be rescued.
Today's the day the American army will show up at this camp and take me away and I'll be healed. And he did that for five years.
And one day he was right.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow, that's cool.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: So the power of hope is always there. It's always ours, and no one could take it away. We can surrender a lot of it, but it can never be taken away.
So that's something that you've got that you can use.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: So a path to Hope is a healing mechanism or a way of becoming vulnerable to a personal freedom, would you say?
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Well, I would actually take a different approach on it. I think the path to Hope is taking the COVID off of it.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Right.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Is just pulling the sheet off and letting it do its thing.
The power of hope is always with us.
We have a tendency, so often, some of us much quicker than others, but we have a tendency to want to throw a wet blanket on it and say, hey, no, we have no hope. We have no hope. We throw this blanket on it. Yeah, but it's still there.
All we have to do is take that blanket back off, and that hope will fire right back up, and before you know it, you'll be seeing rainbows and sunshine everywhere.
[00:30:57] Speaker B: Excellent.
Very positive message there.
Can you elaborate on the successful methods you have developed for dealing with PTSD and how they have helped individuals in building coping mechanisms?
[00:31:13] Speaker A: I used the word when I first started defining this that I said, oh, we're going to use this word called coping mechanisms. And that's not what this is.
[00:31:20] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:31:21] Speaker A: We need to kind of remove that from our vernacular, and I need to do it. I know I'm as guilty as the next person, but these are living mechanisms, not coping. Living, because we have to understand, the first message that I teach anyone I work with is that you're on a timeline. You're on a linear timeline, and the event occurred, you emotionally responded to it, and now you're beyond that.
You can't change this.
This is done.
So you're another person now, because this event occurred, you made an emotional change, and now you're this person and you're moving forward.
So instead of kicking yourself for making the wrong decision, stop yourself and say, wait a minute, wait a minute, instead of punishing myself, what should I have learned?
One of the things that we do when we kind of put it back on us to say, okay, what did I learn?
Is that we take away, we decouple the emotion connected to it.
And so that's one of the biggest things we can do, is as we begin to decouple emotions from memories, we can start identifying really what still has value to us? Right. So if we look at today, one of the exercises I do with all the people I work with is I make them stand with their back on a wall and I say, okay, this is what I want you to do. I want you to say from this moment, all of my memory of things that have already happened are gone.
They're gone right now in the moment.
What emotion am I experiencing?
I have this, I don't know, melancholy.
That's the one I feel the greatest all right here. The greatest. I have just this kind of whatever. Right. Okay. Why are you feeling that way right now?
And then we start identifying these things, and as we do, we realize that we're carrying emotions from our past that don't have value to who we are today. Yeah. I'm carrying this pain, I'm carrying this anguish. And we're six months down the road now from the event that occurred, that caused it or that we accredited to.
And we say, what value is this doing for me? And we say, well, maybe it's teaching me I shouldn't play with guns. Okay, that's a pretty good lesson to take away.
Do you do the same things today that you did then that created this event, that created this emotional event? No. Well, then, there you go. You've learned a lesson. Why are you carrying the angst you've learned, right? So move on.
Dump those things that are not valuable to you and grow. One of the things, I did a show about it a couple of weeks ago where we talked about, and the program is called SABTAS, and it's Stop, think, breathe, act and support.
And so SABTAs, working with military people, you got to speak in acronyms because that's what the military does.
Either the military or medical people, you got to speak with acronyms because that's all I think they understand. So stop is a way of arresting our behavior. We know the difference between a reaction and a response, so we're going to stop reacting, which is that emotional, guttural, visceral response, and instead we're going to take a response action. So we're going to say, okay, hold on, I'm going to think about this and maybe sometimes retreats the better part of valor or a little thought into what I want to respond. And so when I respond, then what's the diffeRence? Well, as I mentioned, with a reaction, it's an emotional, visceral thing. It's tightly coupled with an emotion.
If I respond, I've put a little cognitive thought into this. I've actually processed this through. I've burned a little energy as I put together my words and I've structured my sentences, and then, of course, the action of actually speaking it in a calm voice, all of those allow me to decouple the emotional energy that's being pumped through that. Whatever I say, right? So stop and think is things that we try to get right out in front of, because that allows people that time we can put some cognition towards this. We can start saying, okay, what value? Right? And then we start assigning the value. We start seeing if I respond to this, even if I respond to this in an unemotional way, what value am I providing for me? What value am I providing to the listener? What value am I providing as maybe a role model for someone watching me?
And so that's what we're trying to do with those first two steps. I know in the times I've worked with people in the past, those two are tough.
Those two are tough, especially when you're dealing with more alpha male types. And I say alpha male, although I have worked with alpha ladies as well.
Their mentality is to just react to do. They don't second guess themselves. They just get done what needs to be done. That's what we trained them to do. Remember, we paid our taxes for them to learn to do that.
But now we have to undo that, and we have to say, no, stop. I want you to use some cognition, not emotion. Use cognition and say, okay, what do I want to respond? What value is it going to have? And so one of the things that I, again, going through an energy management process is, I'm going to say, I want you to take a big, deep breath. Why? Because that's a conscious action that you're having to do that's now drawing more energy, right. You're having to use some biochemistry within the body. It's going to kind of bring in more oxygen into the brain. It's going to allow better cognition. It's going to allow us to formulate better thoughts, put everything kind of together for us to then, and only then, after you've mastered all three of those, can we go to an action.
What are you going to do walking away?
Divert into a conversation with my support, obviously, support being that last word.
What can I do?
If this conversation or this immediate threat has no value?
How do I turn that?
What are some options for me to get out of this?
I had a gentleman who worked with me when I was still pretty fresh out of the Christian church, and we were working, and he had a terrible case of very alpha male. Grew up in a very hard family life, had a very hard job, I guess, in the military, and was just very reactive, very emotional reactive.
It took us a while for him to get the stop part. I mean, he really struggled with that. And what his living mechanism, we decided, was that he would go ahead and when he was out in public, he would hug someone. That was it. That's what he needed to do. I said, because that's going to take your mind off the stress, right? It's going to defuse the situation and it's going to kind of take. So what I want you to do is I want you to reach out and hug someone. Now, if your support person is there, that's great. If you have someone, whether it be an immediate family member or whether it be a friend, a buddy, someone who knows what's going on and can be there and say, yes, I know exactly what this is and I know why you're doing it. Okay, got you. Right. I said, sometimes the aggressor is needing is the one who needs the hug. I said, but I'm not going to tell you every situation to go out and hug your aggressor. I'm not going to say that. I'm simply going to say in some cases, sometimes it is those who are most close to us, where the emotions are closest to the surface, where we're going to have some pretty volatile emotional fluxes that can happen. And sometimes those other people in our lives that we may overlook sometimes are the ones who need a hug. And so I said, and that's what it worked for him. And today, even today, I see him every now and then. He works close to where my office is, and so I'll see him. And sometimes he hugs me from the back. He won't even let me get close before he's like. And he's bigger than I am. So he stuffs my face right into his chest and it's like, oh, hi, how are you today?
But that was his living mechanism, and that's what got him through, because it allowed him to stop, think, breathe, and then he could respond. And it's really worked out for him.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: Brilliant. Brilliant. So what is the focus of your doctorate? Research on the spiritual influence on human psychology. And how do you believe it can contribute to a better understanding of mental health?
[00:42:30] Speaker A: Well, I think that's a great question. Thank you for asking it, because it is one of my passions is because we don't give it enough credit. And now, just now, science is starting to say, oh, hey, wait a minute. We may have a 6th sense something. Don't get me wrong.
Every spiritual belief since the beginning of cognition has understood this. However, science is catching up, and what we see is that we have an energy, a spiritual energy that's floating around us all the time. Whether we believe in spirituality or not, it matters not.
And if you don't believe me, stand in a haunted house sometime, all by yourself, alone.
How many things will you see? How many things will you hear? How many things will you smell? How many things will you feel?
You're not actually processing spirituality or spiritual entities can't touch us. They can't physically touch us. They can't.
But what they can do is excite your nervous system, which then excites the limbic system to where you think you were touched or you think you heard voice. Why? Well, because think about the human body. How does the human body work? Well, the human body transmits biochemistry. From where? My finger touches something all the way through my arm, through my body, up through my brain stem, into my brain, and my brain goes, well, you know, of The 50 million times I've touched something before, this signal looks just like those. So you know what? You just touched something.
Okay, but what if the signal that arrived at our brain did not originate here, but was absorbed somewhere else via spiritual entity? And it came into what's called. For those psychology folks. There is a space between nerves, and it's called the synaptic cleft.
And it's a microscopic space that exists between a synapse and a synapse. And at the end, they have what's called the presynapse, and then a post synapse. And what happens is this signal comes through the nerve to the presynapse.
Other energy is provided by the body that creates neurotransmitters that then essentially travels from pre to post synapse and then carries on, goes all the way up. And it does this for every synaptic cleft. Now, this is also why. This explains exactly why alcoholism and drug use and all of these other garbage that people put into their system, why it can have such an influence. Because that cleft is filled with nerve fluid, with the same type of fluid that we have in the spinal cord, the cerebral spinal fluid, very much the same way.
And if that chemistry in that cleft is so out of whack, the signal that's coming up from the nerve may never make it to the brain. It could get diffused, or it could get dropped completely, which is why we have blackouts, heavy drinking, which is why heavy drug use. All the things are slowed, maybe over exaggerated, kind of slow. Why? Well, because these nerve endings are having problems transmitting the signal from on all nerves. So you're talking about the optic nerve, hearing.
All of those all have to transmit in the same exact way.
So when we talk about that synaptic cleft, my theory is that some of those things that the brain goes, did I just see something? Did I hear something?
Those are indeed spiritual entities passing energy into our bodies here on Earth.
They don't mean in some cases, some people will learn to pick up on them, which is what I've done. I have learned to pick up on these and go, all right, instead of using my senses, I'm going to start listening. Why? Because I'm starting to hear these channeled knowledge, channeled wisdom. And that's where you get the ESP, psychic channeling. Those types of events are all because we're starting to listen with our brain and go, wait a minute. That's not really a physical sensory input. It came from somewhere else. Where else? And then you start kind of opening your branch. And so I think when we talk about general psychology, I don't think we've given enough credit to the spiritual influences in our psychology.
One of the things that I theorize, and it's all hypothesis for sure, but if you have some type of energy, very much like we would have thought patterns standing under a radio tower, it's very hard to think that way. I don't know if you've ever tried it, but for those of your listeners who have tried it, it's tough. Why? Because you're fighting not only your own data transmission that we just discussed, but now you're getting overwhelmed by this radio energy because radio waves, big waves, come out, and so you're getting overwhelmed by it. Same thing with spiritual energy, same thing occurs. So you're getting kind of all this spiritual influence. And my theory is that in some cases, when those two influences I just mentioned, spiritual influence, modern, we'll call it modern day life interference. The microwave oven, prime example. When those two energies collide and are brought into the system, the data at which is being transferred from one to another could be corrupt.
Now, the problem exists when that data piece that we just received that's now corrupt, becomes a foundational piece within the mind. It becomes part of the framework, because what's going to happen is as we go down through our lives and we start experiencing more things, our sensory inputs, incoming, all of the sensories, and everything is just that one data piece is invalidated. For some reason.
When that one data piece is invalidated, we could see a cataclysmic fail of the whole framework because the whole thing could come dumbling down. And this is where we run into some issues where you have people who just flat shut down because a fundamental block of their framework within their minds of how things were going to be has now become broken.
And so now I should say you. I should say those folks who are responsible then to help these folks have to kind of frame up, right? We have to kind of go, all right, hey, wait. It's not such a bad deal. We'll just take this one invalidated piece out because we know it's invalidated. Throw that out the window. And instead we're going to put in a valid piece.
We've got this other piece of data, and I'm going to give it to you, whatever it is, right? And we put that under the frame, and all of a sudden, things kind of stabilize again and we can go, okay, now I got it. You know what? Okay. It's not that bad. I just have to reestablish some relationships. How does this apply to this or that or this other thing? But ultimately, now at least I have a framework of thought that I can now function correctly.
And so that's a really big piece, I think, of the psychology, and that's kind of where my psychology studies, if you will, have kind of intertwined with spirituality.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: Wow. What message of peace and hope do you aim to spread through your work?
[00:52:13] Speaker A: That all we have to do is take the blanket off.
I say that all the time. We have to uncover hope.
Hope gives us hope for peace, hope for love, hope for light, hope for coexistence, hope for harmony, hope for all those things.
It's that one gift that we all have that we can make someone's day. Someone could be completely destroyed and come into our life, and we give them a smile, we send them that energy, and all of a sudden, the world's a little bit better place. And if we can all do that, what a world we would be living in for sure.
What a wonderful existence we could have.
We moved past the division and the hate and the segregation, and we went, you know, man, this is awesomE.
We are given a gift. Every fraction of a second, we are given a gift called the present, and we can do whatever we want with it. Why not do something good?
And so that's really my message, man. That's what I try to tell everybody and anybody.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: Wow, that's a beautiful.
Yeah, perfect, perfect mark. How can people find you and look at your work and learn more from you and maybe even work with you?
[00:53:58] Speaker A: Well, the best place to start all of your searches about me, about my work, about all my media and all the releases that my team does is our website. And that website is akufhefnar.com. And I'll spell that because everyone asks me, it's a K for Alaska.
U-L-F as in Frank Hednar.com or Norse Whispers. Either way, they'll wind up on the same page. Norse whispers actually goes to our store, but they can get to the web page. To the web page has links to everything else. It also has quite a bit of my studies and my understanding of my history and certainly my birthrights history.
So you can learn a lot about what we do. You can always visit all of our links. Our YouTube channel, our mean we've got them all. I think we've got everything. I really do. My team tells me that we're everywhere.
YouTube is the best way for our weekly videos. A weekly video is just a teaching I put out every week that talks about one specific topic.
Usually it's in response to a question or an issue that someone's brought up. I also encourage people to visit our Patreon site. Our Patreon site for about a cup of coffee. 349 a month, I think is what it costs.
But actually on that web page or on that site thing, I don't know the technology completely, but I put some of the records when I first really came over to shamanism and I started really getting into the spirituality, I started doing trances, I started getting involved in trances, did a lot of trance work.
What came across was I had gotten some books and I was going to write them up and I was going to be famous or I thought.
Anyway, what happened is some of these entities who would take over my Functions during the trance wrote in the book.
And so they wrote and wrote pictures because they knew I was a visual person, thankfully. But they wrote the book and now they're on book three of notes of just everything that I've done. Well, what I decide. And they're all written, unfortunately, in Nordic runes. So the first thing I have to do is translate that for those folks who don't read runes. And then I also talk about some of the other spiritual channeling I've done in reference to that trance. So kind of get a different view. So they got a couple of different perspectives in there. And then I try to apply how I've used this information practically.
And so I post those, and they're a pretty big document that I post as frequently as I can. But there's a couple out there now that folks can go out and actually begin to see the truth that I got, whether it be the truth that resonates with them, I offer it, and then if it works for you, it does.
[00:57:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Cool.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: Finally, I would have to say, buy the book. I did publish a book called the Turn of Final. That book was published back in May of this year.
That book is a very condensed version of everything else.
So the book talks about the growth of religion versus spirituality. It talks about the evolution of humans and the physiology that is our body. Talks about magic and how magic actually works within spirituality. And then throughout the book, it gives some meditation exercises that folks can use to kind of help drill down and find those invalid nuggets that are holding up some piece of framework for them and say, let me validate that and for their own peace of mind, because one of the things I have discovered in my studies is no two humans that have ever existed are identically the same.
Their perspectives will be different just because of the way they're made and the way they've changed throughout their lives. So we have to kind of look at spirituality instead of looking at a one size fits all. That's not what spirituality is. Spirituality is. Here it is.
What part do you want? What part makes sense to you? What part resonates with you? What part makes you feel more comfortable with being who you are? And so you adopt what you want.
There's enough room. Everyone can be different and still be completely the same without looking for differences. When we start searching for all those commonalities, sometimes we have to step back to find commonality. And that's really what spirituality mean. That's really the big takeaway from.
[00:59:37] Speaker B: Excellent, excellent. Thank you so much, Mark, for your time. I've appreciated all that you've shared here. It's really enlightening, and I love your approach to the explanation of how hope can change everything. That's a very important message, and I'm sure that the listeners would definitely understand and have caught that one.
[00:59:57] Speaker A: I hope so.
I can never get tired of expressing that is, if everyone had just a little bit, just a little bit, the world would be a better.
[01:00:13] Speaker B: Definitely. Definitely. Okay. All right. Thank you so much, and bye for now.
It was such a pleasure talking to Mark. I love the way that he has such a passion for helping people, and his message of hope is so strong and comes through in all his understanding of his ways, his living the life of Ofna and his understanding of the world and how it's all connected and how you can actually become reconnected again. This is the sort of method that people need to hear now, and I'm really glad that he came on the show. So if you've enjoyed this show with Mark, please get in contact with him and tell him how much you did enjoy his talk and everything that he shared. You'll be able to find links to his site at the bottom of the show notes. And if you've enjoyed today's show, please, if you have a friend that needs to hear this, share that directly to them, share it to your friends and family. And if you have something you'd like to share on the show, please get in contact with me directly at supernormalized at Proton me until next week, dear listener. Bye for now.
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