Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Normalize. We feature Mariana Cooper, otherwise known as Mari. Mari is an intuitive that grew up in a framework of understanding of intuition because of her family and her and their connection to the world. Basically, they have a good faith and a good understanding that these things are all real. And it became a part of her life over time. She actually was what you would call, in some ways, she went into the normal sort of life and to the corporate sort of life and then has to actually change all of that, to rediscover herself. And that happened after a tragedy, which was profound for her, but also opened up her psychic ability and intuition. This is her story and her understanding of intuition and. And there's so many really good points in this. So enjoy. I want to say an apologies to everyone today because we had some technical issues with the microphone dropping out and all these sort of things, and I usually attribute that to spirit. So if that doesn't sound wide in places, because we had to change things around to get it to finish. So thank you for your understanding.
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Welcome to Super Normalized Mariana Cooper. Mari, Hello. You've had a.
What would you say, like, a normie sort of life. First of all, completely stressed out, blown out by regular life and all of the things that happen in regular life for all of us, which is so much busyness and so much stress, and it turns you in a different direction and turns you all the way around.
Welcome to the show to discuss that path for you.
[00:02:12] Speaker A: Oh, thank you. I tell you, I can. You want stressed and blown out. I can give you stories, but I can give you solutions, too. I can give you solutions to those stories.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: Okay, well, that's what we're here for, really, is like, to hear. Hear what happened to you and then. And then how you turn that around for yourself. So tell us about that. What happened? I mean, it was a stressful corporate job, you know, profound personal loss. What was going on for you?
[00:02:39] Speaker A: You know, I.
I've always been a dreamer, and I've always had my dreams. Always outpaced my family dreams. My dad was a lieutenant colonel in the army for 21 years. My mom was a social worker. I said There were professional crisis people. You kind of didn't hear from them unless you were in crisis. They're like, oh, I had a great day. Okay, sweetie. That's nice. Oh, I feel like I want to commit suicide. What? You want to do what? Let's talk, you know, ISIS people, you know.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: And. But they were.
They were.
Had incredible family values. And, you know, we still have the family house and, you know, they had it for 60 years and all the. All the things.
But my dreaming, when you come from two, my dad was a Taurus, my mother was a Virgo, I'm a Leo. So that was. You know, my sister was a Sagittarius. So it's two fire signs and two Earth signs. You can. You really have a little bit of things going on in that kind of household.
And they gave me enough of a solid, very traditional background that I could go off on my own dreams and my own passions.
And two, I had two major passions that I was lucky enough to start very young. And one was dancing and the other was riding horses.
So I was.
I had a horse from the time I was 11.
I was riding horses and to this day still have horses. And I was a dad.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: Oh, sorry.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, go ahead.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: My sound's just going strange and I'm not sure why.
Yeah, sorry.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: It's okay.
[00:04:26] Speaker B: That's really odd.
That's never happened before.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: Want to troubleshoot a little bit?
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry. It'll take a second.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: I heard some scratchy stuff.
[00:04:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Can you hear me, like, clear as day?
[00:04:51] Speaker A: No, it's staticky. Is your staticky?
[00:04:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: Giving feedback.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Okay, just give me a second. I'm just going to plug into another port.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: Glad you caught it.
Okay, now you're come. Well, there's still a sound. There's something coming in. There's an echo.
This is like a. Huh.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Okay. Is that better?
You can hear me?
[00:06:35] Speaker A: Yes, I can hear you.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: Oh, good.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, that's really odd. I've never had that happen before.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: I want to see if it.
Do you have a machine going on in the back?
[00:06:49] Speaker B: Do you have like a. Yeah, yeah, I actually do. It's. It's the lighting.
Yeah, sorry about that. It's the lighting. Yeah. Because I've got big studio light above me to make me look.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's okay. I just. Just so you know that I can hear that. I don't know if that's going to create feedback on your.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah, well, what happens is at the end of it, I. The. The riverside will actually Take that out. So.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Oh, good. Okay.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah, so I'll just mark that and I'll go back to there and I'll say, okay, go back to where you were.
I don't know where you were. I'm sorry.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: I don't know what I would say. Oh, I think I was talking about my parents.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:31] Speaker A: So they had two passions. They had two major passions.
One was riding horses, and, I mean, like riding Ryan competing and all that kind of stuff. And the second was dancing.
And I ended up getting engaged to a choreographer.
And we. And it was right at the start of my end of my getting my MBA and going into corporate America, and I had to make a decision. Do I go and dance with MTV or do I go to corporate America and do the nine to five? Because I was like dance company and he was a choreographer.
And I ended up going the corporate route because of my lovely traditional parents.
And.
And he passed away.
And that took me in my, you know, like, we had the. We were going to get a dance studio and have a dance company. You know, we. Well, we already had a dance company. We're going to, you know, do all these things, kids, the whole thing. And we were going to be the very first wedding at Walt Disney World. That's how long ago this was.
We were the very first one.
And he. He suddenly passed away. So at, you know, 30 years old, here I am facing this really dark, you know, like what.
You know, this is. I was already off the beaten path with my passions as it was, but then my partner in crime was gone and. And meanwhile, my mother was always into spirituality. She was intuitive. My grandmother wasn't intuitive.
And so I kind of had that thread kind of going alongside of, you know, of life and these passions in corporate and all of that. And that was when it turned from something crazy my mother would do to something I needed to lean into, because I was raised Catholic and went to all Catholic schools.
And I found that I would go to the church and would just feel empty. I could go. And I was much happier in the church when there wasn't a Mass, I could go and feel the energy of the church and be very centered to this day, I can do that. But I just felt like I would ask questions and I just wouldn't get answers. And then when my fiance passed away, I took a year and I went around to every major professional medium and stage mediumship was really big at that time and. But you had to be on like a year waiting list for some of these people. They were just, you Know, enormous. And I did. I got on these waiting lists and I went from medium to medium renowned. Not like, you know, I think I want to be a medium today. Like, real people, real professionals. And every single one of them said, he won't come through for me. He wants you to talk to him directly. Every single one.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: And so I finally, on his birthday, what would have been his birthday, I said I had to go to New York City for a class and was all about mediumship. And the woman was going to, you know, re. Do readings for us. And, you know, that's what I thought. And so I, I, I was living, I moved, went into New York City and got into this class, and we all had to hold a picture of our loved one who passed away because there's a whole class of people whose, you know, loved ones had passed away.
And I, you know, I thought we were going to give him to the teacher. She's going to do a reading for us. And I, and I told him, his name is Carrie. I told him, I said, look, if you don't come through today on your birthday, after I've been through this for a year, I'm not going to try to communicate with you ever again.
I'm done. I'm, I'm done. I can't. This is enough is enough.
So we get in the class and she does this, you know, kind of prayer protection and, you know, has us do this meditation when she says, okay, now you're gonna all read each other. And I was like, wait, what, are you kidding me? Like, how I'm supposed to read? So she said, everybody swap pictures. So she, they swap pictures. And she says, did anybody. We shot. We had swapped pictures before we did the meditation. She said, did anybody get anything about the picture they were holding? And I said, well, I did. Now by that time, I had been already doing some readings for people because I was already doing, like, intuitive readings, but just had stumbled into that, just was playing around with it. And I ended up reading this woman saying, you know, she says, all right, well, you know, why don't you say what you get around this person? I said, oh, it feels like she had some sort of lung issue. And, and, and the woman whose picture was, you know, the owner of that picture, she's like, oh, my God, that's true. She died of lung cancer. And, you know, and I, and I went on, and I started getting all these things right. And she was, and the whole class was like. And then, you know, and so she, so the teacher was like, that's really good. You know, you're really good.
So she moved on to the next person. They couldn't do the reading. Then she moved on to the next person. She. They couldn't do the reading either. So she started giving me each one of their pictures. I ended up reading every single person in the class.
Like the whole class revolved around me doing the reading for every single person in the class until it got to my picture with Tim.
And she said, well, I'll read for him.
And he gave me like some little message. But by the end of it, she asked me to work for her. She asked me to be her apprentice.
And I had a line of people who were catching me in the hallway asking me if I could do readings for them.
You know, like. So it was this gateway, honestly that opened and it kind of gave me this tangible proof that I, I was on to something, that I could, you know, I, I could somehow connect and communicate and receive long form contextual answers. Not just seeing 4:44 on a clock or getting a parking space or having a coinky dink. You know, it was really like there was a difference between getting a sign and getting a message that was like, that was. There's a big distinction and coming from a background of Catholicism because my parents were both Catholic and you know, I went to Catholic elementary school and Catholic high school, all girls, all Catholic kind schools before I went to college and you know, we had mass every week and all these things and, and it was always, you know, all this stuff, we were always saying all this stuff. But how do you get the answers back? And why does a guy have to be in between me and the answers? Like why does this priest get to get the answers? And then I have to do all these things, genuflect and take communion and do to get my ver. Like when do I get the answers that actually apply to my life, not just to the gospel from, you know, whatever, BC and all this.
And so my, you know, as we fast forward to today because I mean I could take you through all kinds of stories but one of the big premises I have and I've had is it hit me one day I was walking on the beach and I heard, you know, there's what, nine major religions, there's 600 different types of divination where, you know, because people have spent a lot of time trying to figure out the answers, how to pray. You know, we've.
If God has taught billions of people how to ask him for stuff in all kinds of fancy ways with all kinds of fancy stories and with billions of people, you've taught all these people and all these different languages and dialects in all these different countries, all over this, this particular planet, let's not even get into the rest of the galaxies how to ask him for stuff. Wouldn't he have at least one equally robust way of getting the answers back?
Like isn't there a system, if you have so many systems for them for me to ask the question, isn't there at least one system that's, you know, meaty the substantive of how to get the answers back? Why would you start billions of one way conversations and have to manage all these people and there's no way to get the answers back? And that actually was a tripwire into when I left my corporate job. Well, that's a, that's a whole nother tangent, but I was in a, you know, very high octane international advertising career and I did sponsorships and promotions and worked on the Olympics and world tours and all kinds of things. And it was a very, you know, high end position and I was very unfulfilled and very stressed out. I, I liked the content of what, you know, entertainment, marketing, going to tennis matches and award shows and things like that. But the politics and the 9 to 5 and the being off my own biological clock with when I had have to wake up and answering all these people and not being able to take a day off unless I got permission, all that kind of stuff that was just, you know, killing me. And so between the, the fiance passing away and this career that was just so crushing and this need to get these answers, I started to channel and I learned what channeling was with him passing away. I started to channel him for my fiance. I got like, when I got home that night from that class, I channeled 30 pages from. I still have them there, actually found them just recently, they're all yellow and everything. But I channeled 30 pages from him and it was just this conversational response and just telling me, hey, try this and don't worry about me this way and focus on this and don't focus on that and keep going. And you know, it was like this encouraging words and these kind words and eventually as I started to, my corporate career was starting to meld with my psychic career.
I left my corporate job and I went and was a contractor for a while because we all do that. And then until you find your way through into entrepreneurship in its fullest extent.
So one of my contracts, my clients brought me into a major, you know, Fortune 100 company and she said, I know I'm going to put you on as a marketing person, but what I really need is your psychic abilities in the office. I need you to help me interviewing people. I need you to help me with corporate politics. I need you to be my personal psychic. So she had me on the budget as a major marketing consultant, but she was using me behind closed doors as her personal intuitive.
[00:18:18] Speaker B: That's cool.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: Yeah. And so that started to juxtaposition. You see, spirit works in, you know, miraculous ways. Right. And she made it so that, that particular job when I, when she asked me to come be a consultant for her, I said, well, you know, I'm dancing. I was doing ballroom dancing at the time. I had finally left my corporate career. I found ballroom dancing. I was doing ballroom dancing avidly, like competing and going all around the world and jet setting and all that stuff.
And this is like a couple years before Dancing with the Stars actually started.
And so I was on the road with all those people that you see on Dancing with the Star, all those pros. We were all on the road competing together.
And so when I was doing all of that, I told her, I said, I need to, I'm the dancer first, I'm your consultant second. She says, no problem.
Come work, come. You know, I would commute down to Washington D.C. from New York once a week. I would work with her in the office two days and then the rest of the week I was back in New York dancing.
And so I had configured this whole, this whole career thing was configuring. And while I was in working with her, I was doing psychic work.
So it was like this whole, like I had this, this chunk of time where all I learned what it was for all of the things that you love to coalesce and that the universe will come up and support you. And at the same time I was really building my channeling muscle. And it moved over though from doing mediumship where I was talking to people who had already been incarnate, to angels, angelic, you know, speaking with angelic, doing angelic readings and then focusing in on your higher self. That version of us that's non physical but animates the body and has basically two sides, the side that's within the body and that would be our 3D self. And then the side of us that's outside of the body being the navigation system, which is the 5D self. And so that now two books later and 20 years, that's where we are today is, you know, so that was, but that was like a Very quick version of a, of. Of the evolution of. Of kind of where we're at with, with it today.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: That's an amazing evolution. And to it, to me, it's obvious that spirit throughout all of that has been supporting you and just like going, this door's opening. Look for this.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: And closing.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: And closing. Yeah, and closing too.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: And closed door too. So you.
It's not for the fainted heart, but it's true. It happens forever. Is part of the system of answers is that as the new answers are coming, the old answers are leaving. And sometimes that can be a little bit intense.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: Did it feel like that some parts of your life were a bit of an initiation into a new way of being?
[00:21:08] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It felt like the whole thing was some giant unending initiation because, you know, when you're energetic leader, you're put through like 10 times the number of tests that the normal person is put through because you have to be able to come back in and relate to people and say, oh, I felt that before. Not even so much I've seen that before, but I felt that before, you know, and. And it helps to. And it's a lonely path because you're always kind of ahead of where everybody else is.
And.
And then you're hypersensitive, so you're feeling things that other people aren't feeling yet, and you can describe them. And then there's nobody to talk to about it, you know, so there's that, you know, and then the judgment, the prison, why your parents are like, why did you leave the phone company? I didn't want to remind, you know, you're. What now? A psych. What. What's happening? You know, so there's. There was a lot of different moving parts.
There's a lot of different moving parts. But I think the most important thing for people is, is to know. Know that no one doing this work is special.
It's part of our own senses. You know, we're all born with the ability to get contextual messages from our higher self. We're meant to do that. We're meant to walk the planet with a whole energetic toolkit, fully operationalized to go along with the physical existence, you know, God, the powers of be. We all know the world is not an easy place to. To navigate. And you certainly weren't meant to navigate it without your energetic tools and just a set of physical tools. And I think that's where we're at now in our. In the.
In the energetic history cycle and energetic evolutionary cycle that we have is that we're in is coming into a time now where people are starting to get their awareness of their own built in skills and senses and physiologies, energetic physiologies.
It's not, you know, people say, oh, you have some sort of special gift. No, I just have a lot of experience using senses that I became aware of sooner than you did. You know, it's not this, you know, psychic gift. And psychic development is completely different than energetic physiology because we're not trying to predict for ourselves. And that's where people think, oh I could never, it must be a gift because I can't predict. Well, it's not about predictions about communicating.
It's about getting the messages you need to run your day to day life that apply.
Not predicting what's going to happen to you in three months.
It's about today.
What is, what does my body need to eat today instead of thinking I think I'm supposed to have vitamin C because I read that in a magazine. Ask your body. Your body is whispering to you too. Your body has its own energetic communication system. Your body will say, hey, you know, I think I don't need vitamin C today, I need that vitamin D pill, you know, or I just need some, a banana, I need some potassium. You know, you, you'll if once you start to listen in that energetic listening way and become fluent in those energetic senses that you're born with as and when you start to match that level of fluency with your mental mind, your mental thought processes and how fluent you are in your physical abilities, you combine that. Oh, everything becomes possible.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. Yep. And I think that what's also happening right now in reality is that a lot more people are waking up to these abilities because of the light that's coming to us from the galactic center. So we're actually starting to get into a high vibration of light.
And as a part of that psychic ability, intuitive ability, talking to spirits, both you know, human and non organic spirits, it starts to become normal. And I think a part of your job is to, and my job too is to actually help people understand that that's normal.
And, and we, that that's usually our birthright. But in the last X number hundred of years we've actually suppressed that through you know, all sorts of different ways. And you know, one of the first ways that we all started doing it was just writing things down instead of just talking to each even probably even speech. You know, we might probably were just telepathic way back when. So. Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah. And I Think that, that that connection is coming back and I look forward to that actually happening.
Now you mentioned discovering the energetic communication system and 5D frequency based abilities that we are all born with. How would you explain those concepts to someone who is new to that idea?
What is 5D frequency based ability to you?
[00:26:03] Speaker A: Well, so one of the major tenets that we are sort of handed, one of the major assumptions that we're taught when we're, when we're born, you know, is generally people are sort of pushed into some sort. We're born into a culture where we have some sort of formalized religion and most of the religions are based on a chassis where they say, okay, if you've got this physical body and then there's hopefully some soul thing inside that physical body and then you need that guy over there, priest, rabbi, minister, pope, whatever, to let you know that that soul is allowed doing the right thing or not doing the right thing. And so there's this thing out there called God that based on what this guy in between you and God is saying is how he's, how he's going to react. So like, you know, if you want to get forgiveness, you got to go to conf confession and talk to the guy in the box first and then he'll talk to God and say, well God said you need to say three Hail Marys and to our fathers and then you're forgiven. And then don't bother him unless you have like the big things like cancer or baby or something like that. But you know, stuff like, you know, is the boyfriend gonna text me? That's, yeah, don't do that, don't, don't ask for that. You know, so, so you have this, so that's the, that's the premise, right? Is that God is out here.
We help have a soul within us that could be condemned or burned at the stake or whatever. And there's this whole mechanics that have to happen for us to get from point A to point Z.
But the way that it's really structured from frequency based perspective is we're actually these big giant balls of energy that are eternal.
And we decide in our energetic form that we would like to have a tangible lifetime so we can have expansion and ascension and, and tangible experiences. So we allow a portion of our energetic self to inhabit a physical thimble size of a body. So you say. So if you think of this big giant ball of energy that's used the size of the planet Earth and this body that you're in, you take a portion of that energy and you're going to say, I'm going to get in that car and I'm going to drive around in that lifetime and I'm going to do those things.
So you inhabit the body car.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: But that doesn't mean that you're not still the big giant ball of energy. It just means there's a portion of you that gets to be physical. The rest of you is helping the portion of you that's animating that car, that's driving that car navigate. So you become that. So you have your higher self which is out in from fifth dimensional frequency and above, because it's non physical. So that's fifth dimensional frequency and above. And then you have your embodied self which is third dimensional frequency and below. Right. Because it's slow enough vibration that you can have solid, tangible, you know, seemingly solid tangible experience. The fourth dimensional energy between 5D and 3D is the transit energy.
So when we start saying I want to manifest, you know, a new car and I want to bring that through the energy and bring it into my physical 3D experience, your new car is in a 5D state. Right now you're in a 3D state.
You go and you meditate or you do some sort of energetic work to raise your vibration that's pushing you to the fourth dimensional corridor. Your higher self is saying, oh, he or she or they is saying, okay, I need my car now. So it lowers the frequency of the car so it becomes tangible and that transfers in that fourth dimensional energy and then you can use in third dimension.
So from a, from, from that perspective.
So, so, so that's part, that's part one. Okay. Part two is that when you're in this physical body, you come equipped with two sets of tools.
You're in the physical body car and you have a dashboard. Right. We all drive. You know what a dashboard is.
On one side of the Dashboard are your 3D tools. So you have your biology and your physiology. You have your mental mind that helps you to logisticize your world, knows about the laws and the rules. It keeps track of what you've done before. So it has memory, it has, you know, it keeps you safe. It's very much about security and safety and keeping you whole so you can stay alive for this, this incarnation. You also have your physiology and all your biological senses, you know, your physical senses.
And you also have the negative emotions, the library of negative emotions. So blame, shame, guilt, fear, anxiety, all of that is on the 3D side of the dashboard. That doesn't exist in 5D. The negative emotions. On the other side of the dashboard we have what I consider what I call what was channeled to me as travel size versions of the energetic abilities you have when you don't have the body. So you didn't get stripped of all your energetic abilities that you have when you are not embodied, you get a travel size version of them on the dashboard within this new body car.
And that includes your energetic, your ability to communicate energetically, which includes your intuition, your ability to what we call freeform channel or to, you know, get contextual messages, not just, you know, signs and symbols.
Your energy, your ability to communicate telepathically, your ability to get things through manifesting, to get things that you need out of energetic form into physical form. Your ability to self heal is also on this energetic dashboard and your ability to, to communicate non physically. Right. So you to be able to sense things like the weather and things like the animals and the plant kingdoms and you know, when you go into a room and you feel there's something off that whole suite of energetic senses on that energetic side of the dashboard.
The language that's that pendulums back and forth between your physical self and your non physical. So your 3D side and your 5D side is intuition. That's your energetic communication system. And so what I focus on is helping people to not only get signs and symbols and synchronicities and where they go like aha moments, but to get what's behind that, that sign symbol synchronicity, which is a big contextual download. So when people say oh Mari, I saw 11, 11 like six times this week and I saw 4, 44 and it's got to mean something. Is there a message? What do you think? And I said, well, is that intuition? Well that is equivalent to the ringtone on your phone.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that's quality.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: It's literally like bling bling. But you have to answer the phone to get the message.
Yeah, right. There's a message, there's a conversation. You don't have the conversation by saying, oh, the phone's ringing. Oh, look at that, the phone's ringing. You know, I love that ringtone. Oh that, that's burning. I love Paul McCartney. That's the Paul McCartney ringtone. That's not what you're saying. You answer the phone and then you have a conversation.
Right. And so that's the piece that's been missing for everybody is how do you get the contextual download. And this is why people get stuck. They know something's there, but they can't interpret it. So what do you do? You go to a psychic and a psychic doesn't interpret the message. The psychic predicts the future based on your energetic field. It's not even the same. It's not even in the same category. It's saying, if you stay the same. A psychic says, well, if you stay the same, if all things stay the same and you keep making the decisions as you've been making them habitually, this is the most likely outcome. This is what's the highest potential outcome in your frequency right now. But when you're doing personal channeling, it's literally answering the freaking phone and saying, okay, what do I need to do with this business today? Do I, do I advertise this or do I advertise that? Do I price it like this or do I price it like that? Don't price it at all. You're doing the wrong project. You need to do this project over here. Here's how we'll help you figure that out. And then so the first thing that your body does, your higher self, is what governs the 5D side of that dashboard.
So your higher self is covering the energetic side of you.
Your mental mind, your intellect is covering the physical side of things. Right? So we turn to our intellect and say, okay, well, what have I done before? How does this all solve this problem? What have I done before?
No, no, no, no. Your intellect cannot come up with its own new idea. What people don't realize is that when you come up with a new idea, that quote, aha moment, oh my God, you're getting that from your higher self in the 5D side. It's downloading from one side to the other.
But what happens? Because the intellect can only do what it's seen before or what it's seen other people do before. This is why we go to Amazon and look for reviews. Like, I'm not going to buy that toaster until I look on Amazon. Even if I'm in the store looking at a toaster, I will still go on the Amazon app to see what all the reviews are before I buy that dog food or that cleanser for the house or that just to be sure.
Yeah, that's the intellect. Your higher self doesn't need Amazon reviews. Your higher self says, that vacuum over there, you're like, yeah, but what about that one?
But what it that one? And then you then, then all of a sudden you start, you see, you know, three people have it. And then your friend, oh, I just bought this vacuum, totally ran quote random and all that. And so Your higher self has a whole communication system where it uses your environment to get to give you proof of those messages. And, you know, there's a whole system. I mean, I could go on and on. I'll stop here. But that's the basic.
The two sides. And our job is to First Discover the 5D side of ourselves and then to learn how to actually maximize it. Not just be aware that it's kind of there, but to actually engage in it and maximize it. And that's what we're going into now with everything going on in the world. And you were just talking about awakenings.
We're awakening to the dashboard, to that side of ourselves that's gonna take us to those really customized versions of our life. Right, Because.
And this is gonna. I'm just being told to say this. I'm gonna say it.
Our energetic evolution as people has to throttle alongside with the technological evolution as a society.
Last year, we saw AI, like, hit the mainstream. It's been around for a long time, but we saw it really, like when, like 2023, when Chat GPT came out on the scene. And, you know, first the entrepreneurs were like, now everybody's like, oh, my God, you know, and. And now we're seeing medicine. They're starting to talk about, you know, robotic uteruses and all kinds of things that are, you know, happening where you can, where AI is going to. It pretty much flip everything upside down.
Well, your energetic abilities need to keep up the pace with what's happening technologically because it's just for the survival of the race.
You have to be able to have discernment. And with the way that technology is mirroring so much of regular thought, it's seeming to replace regular thought.
You have to be very, very much in tune with your higher self so that you have that ability to discern and to stay with that, that empowered march on the. On the planet. Does that make sense?
[00:38:01] Speaker B: Makes perfect sense. We have to keep our sovereignty amongst all of this, because without it, then we lose ourselves.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I like the way you describe that, you know, like, going beyond the ringtone, that's really clear. And the understanding that you can connect into where that information is leading to, to be able to give you even more connection to your intuition. And as you say, the aha factor, which is that wakes you up to seeing the dashboard and going, well, that's my life. I can now make choices.
So, yeah, that's really interesting the way you described that. Now many people actually struggle with trusting their own intuition, though, and they actually feel disconnected from their higher self.
Or what are some of the common blocks that you've seen and how do you help those people overcome them?
[00:38:51] Speaker A: So I think the first common block is just not understanding the infrastructure of how it works.
Because when you when in my academy where I. Where I have people, you know, and I can. They. They under. Get the whole technological blueprint of how it works. I'm talking energetic technology, not like AI technology, right? And they said, oh, these are my tools. Okay. This is my blueprint of what I'm really working with here. Oh, that's been working all along, but I just wasn't using it in that way, you know.
So we have one of the frameworks that. There's two frameworks that I would say could be very helpful in answering that question.
The first framework is the anatomy of the aha moment, because that's where people sort of enter this world, is they get these quote, aha moments, and they say, oh, my gosh, wait a second. That was something like, oh, my God. And that's really where I say, like the 3D world and the 5D world. French kiss. And you know it when consciousness, like, whoa, what was that? You know, and so. But there's an anatomy to that. Every aha moment actually has the same structure, even though it can be completely different outcomes. And the structure starts with, we have energetic senses first, so your higher self will always go to your energetic senses first. It always goes to your. One of your four Claires or all of them. Clairvoyance Claire, audience Claire, Sentience. Clear cognizance. We are all born with all of the Claires, all of the energetic senses. Just like we have sight and touch and taste, we have an overlying sense of. Of energetic sight, energetic touch and all that and hearing and knowing and feeling. So your higher self goes first to those energetic senses and then immediately. And this is every time. This is never fails. Immediately. Your body is a psychic antenna. And your body has a physical reaction to the energetic senses being tapped.
Your body will give you goosebumps. You'll get a feeling of lightness, you'll get a feeling of heaviness. You'll get the hair on the back of your neck stand up. You'll get the truth bumps. You'll get a sense of coolness, you'll get a sense of nausea almost. If it's a negative thing, you get that sense of foreboding, that heavy energy.
Your body is the psychic antenna that says males in there's something. Pay attention. It could be something. It's like, oh, that puppy. That's the one for me. I'm getting covered in chills. Oh my God. You feel like there's this lift.
That's your energetic self and your physical self working together as they always do.
The third part of the anatomy of the aha moment. So it's step one, energetic senses. Step two, physical reaction.
Step three, your higher self then goes out into your environment and it sends you signs, symbols, synchronicities and messengers to reinforce or to down to give you that the message. If you don't know how to download the messages yourself and channel for yourself yet, then what it will do is go out into the environment and it'll put you in front of the TV just in time for Oprah to explain this big concept that you needed to answer that question you had. Or it'll put you just at the grocery store when those blueberries are on sale and it's Thanksgiving and you have to make 30 pies or you know it. It will send the cardinal to let you know your mom who passed away is with you. As you go for this medical test. You, it's your higher self will go out into your environment. Signs, simple synchronicities and messengers.
So those are the three. So that's the three steps of the aha moment. Three of the anatomy of the aha moment.
You can always ask your higher self to reinforce the quote hunch that you're feeling. So you, most of the time you feel something, you say, hey, I wonder if that's something. I wonder if I should consider that. Well instead of just going to your intellect and saying okay, as I, oh, well I saw Johnny do that and he failed, so forget it or oh, let me go look up what they do. Statistically, that's where your intellect would take you. The first thing you want to do before you go to Google is you want to go to your higher self and say, can you give me a sign? Can you give me a symbol? Can give me some sort of synchronistic event?
Can you give send me a messenger and let me know that this is the direction I should take.
It's a two way conversation. It's not a one way prediction that you have to pay for and then it's over. And then you have to just wait and wonder if it's going to happen where you're giving your power away.
The psychic thing. And believe me, I was like, I've done hundreds of thousands of readings in my career.
I can tell you that channeling your own higher self is Going to be a bazillion times more accurate than any psychic, even the best of the best, because you're choosing with your free will and you're working with that version of you that's expanding and ascending. So. So that anatomy of the aha moment is. Is I think, the fastest way to help you to get reassurance that in a. In an empowered way by asking. Right. And then being aware to notice the more awareness you have that. Okay, wait a second. I'm not going to blow off that thing as a coincidence. I'm going to say, wait a second, I saw.
I do have a little rule of thumb. If you see it three times, then it's a sign.
So, like, if you go to a butterfly farm and you see blue butterfly, it's not a sign. Right. Because that's where they are.
But if you're like in Manhattan and you're walking down the street in, you know, Times Square and a monarch butterfly lands on your nose. Yeah, that was probably a sign. You know what I'm saying?
[00:44:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:44:38] Speaker A: So it's not. You don't want to. Some people get sign happy, like sign drunk, and they're like, oh, everything is a sign. No, not everything is a sign, but if you see it three times, then you should really pay attention.
[00:44:53] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So the messengers are when you tune into the bags, become very clear and easy to work around and to work with.
Now in the understanding that you're a third generation intuitive, how did you discover that?
[00:45:13] Speaker A: Well, my grandmother, at the age of, I don't know, I guess I was about 6, my dad was in the service, so I was in Germany for a little while as a child. Spoke German before I spoke English. And then we lived in Hawaii for four years. So when I came home, I was about six. My grandmother lived in our house while we were overseas.
And so she would take me to the health food stores and teach me all about organic foods. And she. It was funny because my grandmother was a very interesting being. She was, she. She was both Catholic and Jewish because she said somebody has to be right.
So she did both.
So there was this. There was inherited kind of breakdown of like, you must be one thing or the. She's like. She literally had a star of David and a miraculous medal of the Virgin Mary soldered together.
And she would wear them and she would turn it over depending on the day, where she was. If she was in the synagogue, she had the Sarah David, she was in the church, she had Mary. But she, you know, she was basically saying, look, Somebody's gotta be right. Probably everybody's right in some way. I'm gonna connect to the energy.
Meanwhile, she would. She had, like, garlic knots in the ceiling of the house, you know, as protection. You know, she had amulets.
She was. She had all kinds of potions and. Not potions potions, but, like, remedies. And, like, she never used anything that was, like, medicinal. Medicinal, really. She would always go holistic first, always organic first taking me to health food stores when it was like, you know, dusty plywood floors and potatoes growing on one side of the store and these giant carrots and things. So she was that kind of backbone. And then my mother was very curious about energy and frequency. And she actually started studying when Seth and all the channels came out. She was. She was riveted by all those books. And when Shirley MacLaine came out with. Out on a Limb, that whole corridor of time where she was the, you know, kind of the preeminent modern person sort of bridging people into the spiritual conversations. My mom actually went and studied with her personally.
And she was. You know, when. In my teenage years, which I didn't care about this. In my elementary school years and teenage years, she was studying all this stuff. She had crystals, and she would take me to crystal shops and channeling sessions in people's basements. When all the other kids were at the mall, I was in channeling sessions in people's basements of their houses and going to, like, we had a family psychic. And, you know, and so it kind of was just sort of rotated in. But the other thing that I think is even more of a closer answer to your question is my mom is a psychotherapist. In fact, psychoanalytic psychotherapist. She had a PhD and she had a private practice. And she would go into the practice, you know, go into her private sessions because we had the. Her office in the house.
And she would go in. She says, I'm always in my head when I go in because I have to file. And she would do, like, marriage counseling and stuff. She goes. But I sit there and I listen. I listen. Then all of a sudden, I get this almost like this stream of consciousness. And I just. I just start to speak and. And they go, oh, my gosh. And it just solves their problems. And, you know, she would. It was. It was amazing. Like, her practice was huge. She didn't realize she was, quote, channeling.
You know, she didn't call it that.
But she also would have prophetic dreams. So we would get to the breakfast Table.
And my sister and I with Citizen with, you know, trying to eat our cereal. And she says, girls. And we're like, oh, God, I had a dream like, oh, oh, sorry.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: That's okay.
[00:49:13] Speaker A: And I. But it was literally like, oh, God. And she would always be right.
She would always. We were like. She got. Stop having dreams, like, don't sleep. Just don't have an e. Drink. She would always rat us out on something, or she would. She would predict something, and we were just like. It's like, this is too much anxiety. I'm gonna eat at school. I'm not gonna even sit with you anymore. Because she would always do it around the dinner table, you know, so. Yeah, so that kind of.
It was. I had. That.
I had the frameworks of religion, you know, because my mother will pull out a rosary and a Bible in a minute alongside of the crystals, alongside of the Buddhist whatever. And the Muslim, she. They didn't.
They didn't kind of concretize where it was. They knew there's an energy. There's something bigger than us. Somebody's got to be right. And whatever. Felt for that time that it was expansive, that it was comforting. That's where these two women went. And so I think that was what gave me my kind of fluidity.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Framework to grow from and to eventually discover your own path to that connection to intuition and channel.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: My grandfather actually used to watch Robert Schuller on TV every Sunday. So she even had the evangelicals in the house. It was unbelievable.
But every Sunday, we would watch this. This was part of the Sunday routine. You know, my. You know, we go to church sometimes and watch Robert Schuler. My grandson. My grandmother did it.
I can listen to Joel Olsteen and then go channel a session, and then, you know, like, I. I don't have this. Oh, they're evangelicals, so they don't make sense. Oh, they're Jews, so they can't be. You know, we can't listen to that. I think everybody.
It's essentially.
There's always an interpret, the interpretation of how to pray is all out there. What's more important is what's the gatekeeper for how to get the answers? Because every one of these religions has a way to get the answers, every single one of them. But it's usually reserved for the higher echelon, the rabbis who are over 40 years old and men, and the, you know, the priests who are, you know, bishops. They get the mysteries. The mysteries. You get. You see it in the voodoo and in the indigenous religions. It the medicine man has the answer like somebody is holding gatekeeping the answer part. But everybody gets to ask the prayer because that means everybody's needy, right? So to me, my work, my mission is to teach people the language of answered prayer. I don't care what religion you're in, you are a frequency based being, being whatever religion you want.
It has nothing to do with it.
You know, don't impose on everybody else, don't assume that just only you are going to heaven because that's not the truth.
And, and learn how to have that conversation, direct conversation with the God of your understanding and how to get your answers. And then you have a complete package to run your life.
Makes complete sense is running a submarine without a periscope. Try that.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: So now you've written a series of books. Now the first one I think is your Aha factor. And then you did a book called your 5D toolkit.
[00:52:52] Speaker A: No, actually the second one is beyond Intuition.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: Oh, okay, sorry, I got that in.
[00:52:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it's Beyond Intuition is the new one.
[00:53:02] Speaker B: Yeah, Beyond Intuition. So what are people going to find if they pick up your books and read them?
[00:53:10] Speaker A: Oh boy. Well, so the Aha factor the first book was, I did that about seven years ago.
That one was really a primer for just basic intuition and how to use your intuition and that type of thing.
The 5D work, I started channeling well after I finished the first book. So the 5D work is all, all that I've been talking about is in Beyond Intuition.
This is, this was my, I channeled this beyond Intuition. And what it focuses on is that whole energetic toolkit, the framework of how this all works, which is clear, connect, communicate, create. So how to get that though? Basically there's a whole system in there of how to get your first contextual downloaded message from your higher self. But also just an assessment to see where you're at now because you're born with all these frequencies, I mean you're literally born with them. So a lot of they're all operational. It's just you're not recognizing and sometimes you're using them against yourself.
So in the frequency assessment in the book, it helps you to establish kind of where you're at now with what you've been using. It helps you to start to self identify and then it gives you step by step system to get those first real contextual going beyond the ringtone and getting those first contextual messages from your higher self. And essentially what you want to do is kind of build that two way conversational relationship. With your higher self and start recording messages for yourself each day. So in my phone, in my voice memo, because I record the messages now instead of writing them down, I have 2200 messages.
Because I, you know, I can get two or three messages in a day. You know, we have over 100 messages coming at us every single day. Because your higher self.
